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Old 04-21-2013   #41
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Tebow?

we talking about the same Tebow that has a career QB rating of 75 and couldn't beat out buttfumble(who was one of the worst qb's in the league) during the season and they started McElroy instead of him when Sanchez got benched?
Dude can run the 'bone, man. NFL can't stop the 'bone!

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He couldn't complete passes to save his life and somehow you think if he threw more attempts he would get better? If he was better he would throw more attempts


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. I think with more paying time he would improve.

Now this is "Unfounded speculation until it happens"

If he was better he would get more playing time, he isn't so he won't get more time
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He couldn't complete passes to save his life and somehow you think if he threw more attempts he would get better? If he was better he would throw more attempts





Now this is "Unfounded speculation until it happens"

If he was better he would get more playing time, he isn't so he won't get more time
Tebow will be in Canada or what's left of the arena league within 2 years, tops if he insists he's a QB. If he will convert to FB or HB then maybe he'll find a place in the NFL. That doesn't seem too likely at this point.
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Zac Dysert in the 4th.
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None. Maybe an undrafted free agent, but with Schaub/Yates/Keenum/McGee I think we have enough QBs.
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I'll take the kid from Syracuse.
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And shouldn't you be in the A$$hole Thread???
Probably so.

That doesn't change the speculation that a lot of alcohol consumption must have been involved when this thread was created.


Tim Tebow doesn't fit this system at all. Kubiak would never roll with Tebow and his lack of a skill set as a passer. You're always talking about Kubiak being so controlling as an offensive coach, so why would he ever even consider bringing in one of the biggest improv QB's in the league who is forced to run the majority of the time to get a positive gain? If you want other alternatives to Schaub, then that is understandable, but Tebow isn't even on anyone's radar at this point unless you're most interested in the "whole Tebow circus" thing which is something the Texans don't even need since they sell tickets at Reliant perfectly fine. This whole idea has "never would happen" written all over it and thank god for that being so. And for the record I like Tebow.
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Zac Dysert in the 4th.
If you want to take a chance on a QB, I prefer Matt Scott.
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Watching the DeAndre Hopkins (WR, Clemson) highlights.....the Clemson QB, Boyd, looks legit.

Granted, I didn't watch Clemson's games...but the clips I see of Hopkins, Boyd looks really good.

I think the kid out of Arkansas looks like a good prospect too. Tyler what's-his-name?

I also think Dysert will be a good one.

There's some interesting QB prospects coming up this year and next.
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Just wondering what the Rams saw in Kurt Warner before picking him up Is Tim Tebow better than every quarterback in CFL or Arena football? Might be able to get someone for free
Maybe they saw Dick Vermeil crying while watching Kurt Warner's game film?
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None. Maybe an undrafted free agent, but with Schaub/Yates/Keenum/McGee I think we have enough QBs.
Some might say we don't have any. You could have 100 qb's but if none of them are the right one then you don't have any.
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None. Maybe an undrafted free agent, but with Schaub/Yates/Keenum/McGee I think we have enough QBs.
If Yates/Keenum/McGee do not have the ability to be coached up to be starting NFL QBs, then we need to continue looking at QBs.
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tebow is 1-0 against da Texans :P and pretty much had a game winning drive on us a shredded our D
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If Yates/Keenum/McGee do not have the ability to be coached up to be starting NFL QBs, then we need to continue looking at QBs.
Well Thorn, if THAT'S the situation...then why wouldn't you see if Football Jesus could do something for us? Where's the hurt in trying it?

By your words, if we're screwed with what we have...then what's one more potential failure going to matter.

And this phrase "coached up" always makes me shake my head. Coached up? When you get to the NFL, you either can roll as QB or you can't.

Fact: The Broncos were out of playoff contention UNTIL they turned to Tim Tebow, and he led the team to believe they could do it...and they did! Plus, they ousted the Steelers in the opening round before running into the same fugging team (Patriots) that we faced in round 2. Result? Both QBs got shut down and the Pats won.

All things considered, I don't think it's a sin (Tebow joke intended) to contemplate a guy who has shown he can lead an offense from "out of playoffs before he became QB" to "in the playoffs BECAUSE he became QB." And, he hit Thomas in-stride on the opening OT possession to beat the Steelers.

Elway landed a better QB, fine. But Tebow hadn't been given a shot with the Jets...and with that roster and that HC, I don't think it's be a fair assessment of Tebow if he had received a legitimate chance.

By and far, people are more against this move from a public opinion of Tebow Mania than anything else.
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tebow is 1-0 against da Texans :P and pretty much had a game winning drive on us a shredded our D
Vince Young also has a winning record in the NFL. He also had a big run which won the game for Tennessee against Htown in OT. Want to bring him in?!
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And this phrase "coached up" always makes me shake my head. Coached up? When you get to the NFL, you either can roll as QB or you can't.
Funny you make this assertion today. Vinny Cerrato who was Director of Player Personnel with the '49ers was on 610 am and was directly asked this afternoon how good Kubiak was with QBs and he said Kubiak was instrumental in getting Steve Young to up his game and get to the SB.

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Yeah in GP world. I couldn't care less about the potential media attention. Tebow sucks. He is a trick player at the NFL level.
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Funny you make this assertion today. Vinny Cerrato who was Director of Player Personnel with the '49ers was on 610 am and was directly asked this afternoon how good Kubiak was with QBs and he said Kubiak was instrumental in getting Steve Young to up his game and get to the SB.



Yeah in GP world. I couldn't care less about the potential media attention. Tebow sucks. He is a trick player at the NFL level.
I dunno, he could play fullback or RB

I don't see where people think he could do anything. He got lucky is all, in my view. Some of those games were won because of Matt Prater, not Tebow. I see a terrible QB. Inspirational person, good human being, but good quarterback? No. Schaub is miles better than him as a passer. Give Schaub Tebow's mobility, maybe, but Schaub is far better as a passer.
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I dunno, he could play fullback or RB

I don't see where people think he could do anything. He got lucky is all, in my view. Some of those games were won because of Matt Prater, not Tebow. I see a terrible QB. Inspirational person, good human being, but good quarterback? No. Schaub is miles better than him as a passer. Give Schaub Tebow's mobility, maybe, but Schaub is far better as a passer.
He probably could be some kind of fullback or goal line back if he focused on that solely. I think he would be open to it. He can run the ball. Question is can he block and can he catch the ball.
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Why is there such a level of hatred in the posts? Has Tim Tebow earned the level of asshattery that gets spewed in comments sections?

Doesn't beat up women. Doesn't kill teammates in car wrecks. Not on trial for animal cruelty. Has never once subverted a starting QB let alone even hinted at a mutiny against one.

The guy is not terrible, and to be honest the book is still way open on him as a QB. Nobody has seen nearly enough on him as a QB as we have on a whole assortment of journeymen wannabe QBs who drift from team to team. Even a completely inept QB named Vince Young had quadruple the chances that Tebow has.

Sometimes you can tell the character level of people when the best they can do to "engage in the conversation" is (a) talk massive **** about a player without really discussing the situation, and (b) talk massive **** about a poster.

As a QB3, he's better than even the QB2 we had on our roster who played all of one quarter in 2011 before being drilled into the turf and effectively done in the NFL.
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