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Old 04-10-2013   #61
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NFL COMPARISON Jordy Nelson
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profil...len?id=2540154
So if we are making comparisons of Draft prospects to active NFL players, NFL.Com compares Allen to Jordy Nelson, FWIW ?
And sorry, gotta keep beating the drum for Robert Woods if you want a player with real
sprinter-track speed who's also a legit WR, because he's the only one who really qualifies IMO other than Cordarrelle Patterson whom will be selected very early in the Draft well before the Texans choice.
What are you talking about?
Da'rick Rogers 4.43
Terrence Williams 4.48
Quinton Patton 4.48
Justin Hunter 4.36
Aaron Dobson 4.43

Most are as big if not bigger. All are good receivers. Woods is good but not the only one.
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What are you talking about?
Da'rick Rogers 4.43
Terrence Williams 4.48
Quinton Patton 4.48
Justin Hunter 4.36
Aaron Dobson 4.43

Most are as big if not bigger. All are good receivers. Woods is good but not the only one.
He has bests of 21.01 in the 200 (fourth fastest in the nation in 2010) and 46.17 in the 400 (second fastest in the nation in 2010)
http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-f..._robert00.html
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That's real top-end speed, the kind needed to create real seperation on a fly-route against a fast corner. And go look at some tape on Woods, he's got everything needed to be a #1 WR in the NFL.
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He has bests of 21.01 in the 200 (fourth fastest in the nation in 2010) and 46.17 in the 400 (second fastest in the nation in 2010)
http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-f..._robert00.html
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That's real top-end speed, the kind needed to create real seperation on a fly-route against a fast corner. And go look at some tape on Woods, he's got everything needed to be a #1 WR in the NFL.
When the field becomes 200 or 400 meters long, Woods will be my guy.

Woods is not a burner. He gets the job done due to shiftiness, body control, and hands. I am a big fan, but you are banging on the wrong drum IMO.
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When the field becomes 200 or 400 meters long, Woods will be my guy.

Woods is not a burner. He gets the job done due to shiftiness, body control, and hands. I am a big fan, but you are banging on the wrong drum IMO.
There's the initial burst at the los when the ball is snapped which is an indication of exlosiveness, then there's the long-sprint down the field by receivers on deep routes where a 200 time is perhaps even more indicative of top-end speed needed to seperate from the DB coverage.
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There's the initial burst at the los when the ball is snapped which is an indication of exlosiveness, then there's the long-sprint down the field by receivers on deep routes where a 200 time is perhaps even more indicative of top-end speed needed to seperate from the DB coverage.
Routes longer than 40 yards are pretty rare. I think 40 yards is just fine for testing someone's deep speed. If you need those 40 yards to get passed someone, you wont be a good receiver in the NFL.

The initial burst and "wiggle" are far more important.
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What are you talking about?
Da'rick Rogers 4.43
Terrence Williams 4.48
Quinton Patton 4.48
Justin Hunter 4.36
Aaron Dobson 4.43

Most are as big if not bigger. All are good receivers. Woods is good but not the only one.
Yeah, but what are their 200 meter times?
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I like Allen, but I like other guys more...

He's a good player though...
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...an-allens-game
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Here's an excellent "pros & cons" breakdown on Allen at one site.
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Idexan, on the other hand, Hunter is a good athlete in long jump and high jump.


Hunter attended Ocean Lakes High School in Virginia Beach, Virginia. He was ranked as the eighth best wide receiver recruit in his class by Rivals.com. Hunter was also a standout in track and field. As a junior in 2009, Hunter won the state title in both the long jump,and high jump. As a senior in 2010, he won the state title in the long jump,high jump,and triple jump. Hunter was the 2010 USA junior national champion in the long jump, and represented the USA at the 2010 IAAF World Junior Championships

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I just timed Allen on this play in fastenough.90. BTW, that's 1st lock CB Desmond Trufant (#6) in pursuit.

I like Allen, and if healthy would make a great pick @27. But, he's not healthy. This team is has a window and I don't think it needs to swing for the fence with high risk picks, be it injury or character concerns. That's why I would lean at this point to DeAndre Hopkins or Robert Woods at WR. They both have the talent and the production to project as a solid #2 WR, at least. And using scouting terminology, they're "clean" prospects. I think the Texans have to go "clean".
I have to agree with this. I am a fan of Allen and wanted the Texans to draft him, but with this speed/injury concern maybe they should change their focus more to Hopkins or Woods. Hopkins has always been high on my list anyway, and I think he is more physical and has better hands than Allen or Woods. Still, in a couple of weeks when the Draft is upon us, if Allen, Woods, and Hopkins are all there at #27, I wonder what the Texans would do.
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