2013 Compensatory Picks ANNOUNCED tomorrow

[Insideop]

Anybody know when the NFL will announce the picks? It's after 4 pm here and I just looked on NFL.com and saw nothing.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

It actually IS today

Time?

[HOU-TEX]

Originally Posted by mussop

Time?

No times have been given

[Doppelganger]

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

Both James and Jones signed vet minimum deals and do not count at all in the compensatory pick equation.

So much for that theory!

So the Texans may not wind up with a third then. If 2-2=0, maybe the only way a Mario comp pick comes through is based on salary? Perhaps it gets downgraded to a 4th/5th and the Briesel maybe a 7th at best.

[srrono]

http://bloggingthebeast.com/2013/01/...k-projections/

Projections by Jimmy Kempski

Team Round Player lost
Texans 3 Mario Williams
Chiefs 3 Brandon Carr
Titans 3 Cortland Finnegan
Lions 4 Eric Wright
Ravens 4 Ben Grubbs
Packers 4 Matt Flynn
Dolphins 4 Kendall Langford
49ers 4 Josh Morgan
Falcons 4 Curtis Lofton
Ravens 5 Jarret Johnson
Titans 5 Jason Jones
Texans 6 Jason Allen
Giants 6 Aaron Ross
Raiders 6 Samson Satele
Raiders 6 Michael Bush
Ravens 6 Cory Redding
Eagles 7 Steve Smith
Bengals 7 Jerome Simpson
Ravens 7 Tom Zbikowski
Steelers 7 William Gay
Seahawks 7 Charlie Whitehurst
Seahawks 7 Atari Bigby
Falcons 7 Eric Weems
Bengals 7 Mike McGlynn
49ers 7 Blake Costanzo
Lions 7 Drew Stanton
49ers 7 Madieu Williams
Falcons 7 James Sanders
Titans 7 William Hayes
Falcons 7 Kelvin Hayden
Jaguars 7 Additional pick
Chiefs 7 Additional pick

Texans
Players lost
Mario Williams (6 yr $96 million), Brisiel (5 yr $20 million), Jason Allen (2 yr $8.2 million), Dreesen (3 yr $8.5 million)
Players Gained
Bradie James (1 yr $890,000), Donnie Jones (1 yr $890,000)

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by srrono

http://bloggingthebeast.com/2013/01/...k-projections/

Projections by Jimmy Kempski

Don't go by that; he was missing some infos.

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by Doppelganger

So much for that theory!

So the Texans may not wind up with a third then. If 2-2=0, maybe the only way a Mario comp pick comes through is based on salary? Perhaps it gets downgraded to a 4th/5th and the Briesel maybe a 7th at best.

I don't think you're understanding me, I mean Donnie Jones and Bradie James do not factor into the equation for awarding or offsetting picks. So in 2012, the Texans lost 4 qualifying free agents, Mario, Brisiel, Dreessen and Allen. They signed no one that qualified, so we should get 4 picks. The only way I see us not getting 4 comp picks is if the league has more than 32 qualifying signings and a 7th gets lopped off for being beyond the top 32.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by Doppelganger

So much for that theory!

So the Texans may not wind up with a third then. If 2-2=0, maybe the only way a Mario comp pick comes through is based on salary? Perhaps it gets downgraded to a 4th/5th and the Briesel maybe a 7th at best.

You get it backward.

Discounting James and Jones, we lost 4 and gained none.

We might get 4 comp picks.

Mario most likely will net a third rounder.

[srrono]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

Don't go by that; he was missing some infos.

Glad to hear that I was thinking HOU would get at least 3 picks

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by srrono

http://bloggingthebeast.com/2013/01/...k-projections/

Projections by Jimmy Kempski

If this is true:

Texans
Players lost
Mario Williams (6 yr $96 million), Brisiel (5 yr $20 million), Jason Allen (2 yr $8.2 million), Dreesen (3 yr $8.5 million)
Players Gained
Bradie James (1 yr $890,000), Donnie Jones (1 yr $890,000)

Then they left of Shayne Graham, who signed for 925k+65k signing bonus. 925k is the vet minimum deal for a player of 10+ seasons. 825k is the vet minimum for players with 7-9 years, which James and Jones fall into. Here are the minimum salaries:

2012 NFL vet minimum salaries
Rookie - $390,000
1 year - $465,000
2 year - $540,000
3 year - $615,000
4-6 year - $700,000
7-9 year - $825,000
10+ year - $925,000

That 65k bonus is pretty standard for veteran contracts. I'm not aware of it affecting comp picks, but I guess we will see soon enough.

[imatexan]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

The other top 5 teams that were in shambles when Rick Smith came to Houston were, in order of draft pick, the Saints, Titans, Jets, Packers, and Niners. There are three Super Bowl wins and a couple extra championship games mixed in there. Do with that what you will; just thought I'd offer it up for consideration.

Why are you naming the top 5 pick teams of the 2006 draft?

I thought you would know by now Rick Smith wasn't even hired, makes no sense.

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by imatexan

Why are you naming the top 5 pick teams of the 2006 draft?

I thought you would know by now Rick Smith wasn't even hired, makes no sense.

He was hired right after the draft. So he GMed the 2006 team. But that wasn't the reason I brought up that draft. I brought it up because all those teams had debacled (Emmitt-ism) the year before. Since that time, every one of those teams has had almost complete turnover as well, and most of them have had more sucess. The only conclusion I draw from that is it doesn't have to take years and years to rebuild. Yes, the Texans were worse off in '05 than any of those other teams. No, that doesn't matter anymore, because they all have new players, coaches, and probably GMs. Those teams just picked their players, coaches, and GMs better than the Texans did.

[powda]

Why is this taking so long? Is a fax machine broke?

[pec0sb0b]

It's almost 5:00 pm, Pacific Standard time. Are the owners all out playing golf, or what?

[SAMURAITEXAN]

Originally Posted by pec0sb0b

It's almost 5:00 pm, Pacific Standard time. Are the owners all out playing golf, or what?

Yep, they are at 18th tee and betting double or nothing.

[powda]

Originally Posted by SAMURAITEXAN

Yep, they are at 18th tee and betting double or nothing.

Minus the saints ofcourse.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

He was hired right after the draft. So he GMed the 2006 team.

All the big free agents moves and draft were done before he came in 2006. You can say he was in the car but he didn't pick it.

2006 made a good storyline for you but going with Smith's first draft doesn't play out so well.

Oakland - jack
Detroit - 1 wild card loss
Cleveland - jack
Tampa - 1 wild card loss
Arizona - 2 playoffs including SB loss - and let's face it that was considered the fluke SB run of all time.

Paints a little different picture. Circumstances matter. Some teams aren't as good as their record reflects - see 2004 Texans who were nowhere close to on the verge. Some teams aren't near as bad as their record reflects - see the 2005 hobo Saints.

[htowntexans1985]

John McClain @ McClain_on_NFL

Texans received compensatory picks in
the 3rd and 6th rounds of next month's
draft. They've had 5 n their history, all
in 6th and 7th rounds

[aussie_texan]

@McClain_on_NFL: Texans received compensatory picks in the 3rd and 6th rounds of next month's draft. They've had 5 n their history, all in 6th and 7th rounds

[281]

That's it? Lame. Oh well, it's better than nothing.