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Seriously? There's nothing in the track record to suggest that they're remotely capable of doing that. The best nose tackle in Texans history is still Seth Payne.
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I really hope you are right but deep down that makes me very nervous. I'd rather see the Texans draft a defensive player with pick number 27. That would make me a happy man, as I'm sure that will also make Wade Phillips happy. Our offense shouldn't struggle with seven pro bowlers on it. We just need one veteran wide receiver in free agency. If the offense still struggles then Gary Kubiak is too blame because he's the one calling the plays.
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The Texans' are losing role players that can be replaced cheaply. Every team has its stars that they are going to pay big bucks for and lose role players. The question is have they chosen the right players to keep as the stars. AJ, Schuab, Cushing, Brown, Watt are the stars (maybe a couple others), everybody else can be replaced.
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Have we really tried to find one in the Wade Phillips era? Shaun Cody and Earl Mitchell have been serviceable. He's made mediocre players like that look decent at times in this 3-4 defense. I trust big Wade when it comes to finding defensive talent. I believe the next Casey Hampton is out there in this draft and we're going to find it baby!
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Not exactly true. Using Quin as an example - he is a role player. But replacing him cheaply is not as easy as you suggest. We could just as easily end up with another Antwan Molden as we could Glover Quin. The key for good teams is when they develop and coach up those mid-level players, especially a position shift like Quin, is to hang onto them for a reasonable price. Now, I don't know if $5M/yr is a reasonable price for Quin or not, but the fact that Texans never even offered him a contract and let him hit free agency makes me question what the hell they're thinking.
Anytime your strategy is to replace talent solely through the draft, you have to hit on your picks and the ramp-up time in coaching has to be accounted for. There's value in the mid-level guys that are solid contributors, as long as you know what that value is. By not even offering Quin, I question Rick Smith's assignation of value.
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Also making my point for me. The team has never even tried to find one, so why would you TRUST that they're going to try now?
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Gotta reload, just like the Ravens have to do year in/year out.
Huff looks interesting, but he was due $8 million in 2013 -- we won't approach that number, other teams might. |
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I don't care. Whatever it is, the Texans could've matched Glover Quin contract. They're choosing to be fiscally responsible for future years and ignoring the rapidly-closing window right in front of their faces. I don't give a **** if matching Quin and Barwin might lead to a massive purge come 2015/2016, because the fact of the matter is, those aren't likely to be contending years anyway. Not with this core, at least. You have maybe two more years of the Schaub/Foster/Johnson era. If you can make yourself a bigger Super Bowl contender in the meantime, it's well worth dropping from 8-8 to 5-11 in three years.
It's pretty much the exact opposite of the Daryl Morey approach (championship or bust). With the Texans, it's what keeps them competitive and in the playoff hunt for the longest possible time. There just isn't the emphasis on building a true contender. SMH ![]()
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We need to sign someone. We've lost too many players.
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This is the attitude that losing teams have. Winning teams look to the draft to reload. We are fine.
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Our championship window is rapidly closing and you go out and let valuable players go?
I would argue Quin was our 2nd best defensive player outside of Justin James Watt. |
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Dude? You're quickly becoming a nuisance.
Stop with the knee-jerk commenting!!!
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If you're sick and tired then just stop following the team. It's just a sport, it should be fun.
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Don't let facts guide you...make comments based on emotions because that's way more accurate. Keep on trolling...
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Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way.
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Antonio Smith Jonathan Joseph Kareem Jackson Daniel Manning/Brooks Reed I strongly disagree. Quinn was maybe 7th best. Remember all those big plays where the receivers got behind the defense and got big td receptions? It's the safety's responsibility to stop that from happening.
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If you have no patience then there is no way your a fan of this team....
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