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Old 03-13-2013   #201
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Hate using Glover. Dude really improved as a player over time.

Now the question is what happens. I don't want to rely on a rookie in the secondary.
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LOL wow at that report! Didn't even give him an official offer? This FO is truly inept SMH.

They better have a plan in place or Rick Smith needs to be gone ASAP!
So glad you decided to share your wisdom with us...
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I don't think you have to be buddy, buddy with guys as a gm, but they at least need to have some respect for you.
Agreed. And even more importantly, players have to trust that you're as good as your word. It's just like any business.
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Per year basis, that's what we gave Daniel Manning. Seems a bit pricey for Quin. I'll be interested in seeing how the money is structured.
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No way is he worth 5 million a year... not at this point in his career, he had one good season at safety and this moves him into the top 5 salary... these guys are getting some crazy offers..
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The Niners were standing pat with Alex Smith for awhile and the Broncos were stuck with some mediocre-poor QB play for awhile.

The Broncos will soon find themselves losing players; I'm thinking next year.
I haven't looked into the Niners situation yet so I don't what kind of cap situation they're in.

Nowadays, most teams that are perennial play-off contenders don't have a lot of cap space. The good players always want more money on their next contract. That's just the way it is; you can't keep all the players, and you can't sign big FA every year unless you let go of some good players yourself (so that you have the money and or cap space.)
Yeah but if the Bronco's go on to win the superbowl then it won't matter. Mission accomplished.

The Ravens signed a bunch of our guys but those guys paid off huge for them. Yeah they are losing most of their players but it was worth it.

All I'm saying is, a rookie or Keo at safety is likely going to be a huge hole. Big enough that it pretty much will put us at 'Pretender' status for most of next year.

We need a vet. I'm not angry at losing Quin yet...I'm just anxious and hopeful that Rick Smith won't try to rely on the draft to fill that hole. I love Rick Smith's drafting, he drafts studs...but they sometimes take a year or two to show their worth.

I'm not sure Andre has a year or two...and Foster is a RB whose career could take a down turn at any year because he's a RB.
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Watt and Cushing should be TWO BIG reasons why the Texans should be patient. They will make tons of money if they stay healthy and the Texans need to save every penny they got for them.
JJ Watt is going to be a $100 million contract extension two years from now. That's after re-signing Cushing. You have to start preparing for that right now.
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No way is he worth 5 million a year... not at this point in his career, he had one good season at safety and this moves him into the top 5 salary... these guys are getting some crazy offers..
Salary isn't the only compensation though, his AAV is 5 million a year, which puts him around 15th overall in the NFL. There are still some other safeties out there that may sign for more than that this FA period, but he's not being grossly overpaid. Given his age and experience, 5m isn't bad for him, but it's too much for the Texans to spend.
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JJ Watt is going to be a $100 million contract extension two years from now. That's after re-signing Cushing. You have to start preparing for that right now.
It's pretty hard to win as a team when you have that much of your cap tied up in one guy, especially when he isn't a QB.
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I thought $5mil may have been okay for the Texans but guess not. Well best of luck to Quin on some occassion because I am still also a Bears fan lol. Time to see what plan we have in place. You guys are right though when I think about it. We have two rather big contracts coming in Cush and Watt. Got to be in a good place.
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Easier when it's JJ Watt though.
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Salary isn't the only compensation though, his AAV is 5 million a year, which puts him around 15th overall in the NFL. There are still some other safeties out there that may sign for more than that this FA period, but he's not being grossly overpaid. Given his age and experience, 5m isn't bad for him, but it's too much for the Texans to spend.
Really you think he's better than some of these guys?

Adrian Wilson, Cardinals - $10,550,000 - Signed thru 2013
Troy Polamalu, Steelers - $8,890,000 - Signed thru 2014
Roman Harper, Saints - $6,250,000 - Signed thru 2012
Tyvon Branch, Raiders - $6,212,000 - Signed thru 2012
Eric Berry, Chiefs - $4,842,800 - Signed thru 2014
Donte Whitner, 49ers - $4,383,333 - Signed thru 2013
Brandon Meriwwather, Bears - $2.950,000 - Signed thru 2013
Kenny Phillips, Giants - $2,586,000 - Signed thru 2012
Bernard Pollard, Ravens - $1,950,000 - Signed thru 2015
George Wilson, Bills - $1,791,666 - Signed thru 2013
Will Allen, Steelers - $1,605,000 - Signed thru 2012
Yeremiah Bell, Jets - $1,400,000 - Signed thru 2012
Jordan Babineaux, Titans - $1,400,000 - Signed thru 2013
Eric Frampton, Vikings - $1,233,333 - Signed thru 2013
Brodney Pool, Cowboys - $1,200,000 - Signed thru 2012
Craig Dahl, Rams - $1,200,000 - Signed thru 2012
Reed Doughty, Redskins - $1,150,000 - Signed thru 2013
Pat Chung, Patriots - $1,115,000 - Signed thru 2012
C.J. Spillman, 49ers - $1,080,000 - Signed thru 2014
T.J. Ward, Browns - $1,058,750 - Signed thru 2013
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Tania Ganguli@taniaganguli Wow, Glover Quin's agent just told me the #Texans never made an official offer for him. They talked conceptually at the combine.

I'm starting to believe that if you hear that the guy is a top priority that is FO speak for don't let the door hit you on the way out. We should of at least made him an offer before he hit the open market, damn. Hope we sign a vet who is not a downgrade.
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Quinn took 97% of the snaps last year is a stat I heard.
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Really you think he's better than some of these guys?

Adrian Wilson, Cardinals - $10,550,000 - Signed thru 2013 NO
Troy Polamalu, Steelers - $8,890,000 - Signed thru 2014 NO
Roman Harper, Saints - $6,250,000 - Signed thru 2012 NO
Tyvon Branch, Raiders - $6,212,000 - Signed thru 2012 YES
Eric Berry, Chiefs - $4,842,800 - Signed thru 2014 NO
Donte Whitner, 49ers - $4,383,333 - Signed thru 2013 NO
Brandon Meriwwather, Bears - $2.950,000 - Signed thru 2013 YES
Kenny Phillips, Giants - $2,586,000 - Signed thru 2012 NO
Bernard Pollard, Ravens - $1,950,000 - Signed thru 2015 YES
George Wilson, Bills - $1,791,666 - Signed thru 2013 DUNNO
Will Allen, Steelers - $1,605,000 - Signed thru 2012 YES
Yeremiah Bell, Jets - $1,400,000 - Signed thru 2012 YES
Jordan Babineaux, Titans - $1,400,000 - Signed thru 2013 YES
Eric Frampton, Vikings - $1,233,333 - Signed thru 2013 DUNNO
Brodney Pool, Cowboys - $1,200,000 - Signed thru 2012 YES
Craig Dahl, Rams - $1,200,000 - Signed thru 2012 DUNNO
Reed Doughty, Redskins - $1,150,000 - Signed thru 2013 YES
Pat Chung, Patriots - $1,115,000 - Signed thru 2012 YES
C.J. Spillman, 49ers - $1,080,000 - Signed thru 2014 DUNNO
T.J. Ward, Browns - $1,058,750 - Signed thru 2013 YES
Answers in caps.

Anyways, my point is that he's probably really worth about 3-4 million a year, so getting 5 per year isn't grossly overpaying. I imagine the Texans would have retained him for 3 years 10.5m, but he didn't want that because he got a better deal. Some of that extra money may have been because it was Detroit, who isn't exactly a great franchise or city.
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