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Old 03-11-2013   #21
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Dream trade for Houston. We are most likely drafting a receiver first round. Cut Walter, Daniels, and Smith = Enough for Percy Harvin.

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Perhaps Mike Wallace will get $12M a year, but sounds like Harvin is averaging more than that in his new deal with Seattle
Seattle better hope they enjoy their $12 mil spread all over the field while they watch Harvin sitting on the bench with ice packs, splint, or cast/
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What does this tell a young team that just put together a winning season? A lot of these guys have yet to get paid, and Percy Harvin comes in and makes $12 million? Can't be good for team chemistry.
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I vaguely recall in another thread about Harvin being told a high 1st round pick was dumb. We were all wrong but at least I can say I was closer to right about Harvin's trade value.
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Default Re: MIN trades WR Percy Harvin to SEA for 1st rounder

I would rather see Texans trade their first rounder for Victor Cruz - http://sports.yahoo.com/news/giants-...1937--nfl.html
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I would rather see Texans trade their first rounder for Victor Cruz - http://sports.yahoo.com/news/giants-...1937--nfl.html
Me too

Harvin wants Megatron $$$$$.

Harvin has bad ankles.

Glad Rick/Gary passed, not that they would've ever considered a deal like this. One things for sure, Carroll is a risk taker. Probably why the Hawks are farther ahead than the Texans even though Carroll hasn't been in Seattle near as long as Garys been in Houston.
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I don't think so!


Seattle better hope they enjoy their $12 mil spread all over the field while they watch Harvin sitting on the bench with ice packs, splint, or cast/
Tell me about the nfl games Percy Harvin has missed due to these injuries.
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Man....1st round picks are gold. Even late first round picks.

You can still find superstar hall of fame players until about middle of the 3rd round. 22 positions and most drafts have depth.

I think Minnesota did themselves good if they can draft the right guys then no doubt.
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Man....1st round picks are gold. Even late first round picks.
I agree. And this guy also has "off-field" issues. Just wait until he finds out there's never any sunshine in Seattle, that's the opportunity for this diva to have a new issue - SAD. He'll be joining Royce White in therapy. He's talented, but also temperamental. Texans don't need this headache.
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I vaguely recall in another thread about Harvin being told a high 1st round pick was dumb. We were all wrong but at least I can say I was closer to right about Harvin's trade value.
Just because Seattle did it doesn't make it right. It makes them dumb, considering the money he wants & there's only been one receiver "like" him that produced what that contract will expect & that's Wes Welker (who is not & most likely won't get paid like that).
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Just because Seattle did it doesn't make it right. It makes them dumb, considering the money he wants & there's only been one receiver "like" him that produced what that contract will expect & that's Wes Welker (who is not & most likely won't get paid like that).
Please excuse me for saying high as I meant late.

It's not a justification, it's a projection. Teams routinely do far dumber things with first round picks and money all the time. See Tebow. Harvin is a damn fine player with a history in the NFL. A first round pick for Harvin was not a leap of faith if your familiar with him.
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Default Re: MIN trades WR Percy Harvin to SEA for 1st rounder

The mercurial Harvin started 43, played in 54 out of a total 64 regular season games. His non-starts and missed games were due to "sinus infections" that later became migraine headaches, and ankle injuries that landed him on the IR last year missing 7 games.

He averaged 61 yards receiving and had 20 receiving/4 rushing TDs over that span.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...9/percy-harvin

Excluding games where he might have only played a handfull of snaps (the 54 games) and using 43 games where he actually played a full game...

6.51 receptions per game
76.79 yards per game
15.88 rushing yards per game
.465 touchdowns per game
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...9/percy-harvin

Excluding games where he might have only played a handfull of snaps (the 54 games) and using 43 games where he actually played a full game...

6.51 receptions per game
76.79 yards per game
15.88 rushing yards per game
.465 touchdowns per game
Not to mention Harvin KR/PR abilities. I know he's returned a few for TD's. He wouldn't be able to do that with the Texans though. (Coach Joe)
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Excluding games where he might have only played a handfull of snaps...
Harvin had no games where he had a handful of snaps. He had 5 games in his rookie year with snaps in the 20s, 1 in 2010, and 1 in 2011. all other games were higher.

Vikings put up some low team snaps from 2009-12 -- down to 45. Having AP took him off the field more than usual.

He scored TDs on KR/PR 5 times: 2 ('09), 1, 1, 1.
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No way. Draft one, maybe sign Mike Wallace?
Well then it shouldn't affect our draft.
Instead of Seattle, now it's the Vikings.
There's no additional need created.
If anything, it hampers the Seahawks next year, when they lose a mid round pick.
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Harvin had no games where he had a handful of snaps. He had 5 games in his rookie year with snaps in the 20s, 1 in 2010, and 1 in 2011. all other games were higher.
Do you have a link to verify any of this? I cant find a per game snap count for individual players anywhere.
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What does this tell a young team that just put together a winning season? A lot of these guys have yet to get paid, and Percy Harvin comes in and makes $12 million? Can't be good for team chemistry.
That's a good point.
Didn't Seattle just pay big bucks for a QB that ended up getting outplayed by a rook? I kinda thought that move showed the team that performance, not payroll impact, is what counts most.

...then they go after Pay-Me Percy.

The mind boggles.
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What does this tell a young team that just put together a winning season? A lot of these guys have yet to get paid, and Percy Harvin comes in and makes $12 million? Can't be good for team chemistry.
Seattle's wr's were a crapbag. Harvin is a stud. Winning is the best thing for chemistry. There are no Percy Harvins in this years draft.
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Seattle's wr's were a crapbag. Harvin is a stud. Winning is the best thing for chemistry.
Did he help the Vikings win all that much? I thought they played better down the stretch without him.

I think Harvin is a cancer for a young team. Pete Carill has never been afraid to bring in anyone he thought could play. I guess he'll figure it out.
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Did he help the Vikings win all that much? I thought they played better down the stretch without him.

I think Harvin is a cancer for a young team. Pete Carill has never been afraid to bring in anyone he thought could play. I guess he'll figure it out.
I think Harvin is a game changer. He would take us over the top offensively. He can run like a running back and is a weapon you can put anywhere on the field.
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