Kiper post Combine top 25 - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**Playoffs** · 03-02-2013

1. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia

2. Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida

3. Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan

4. Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon

5. Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M

6. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama

7. Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU

8. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

9. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama

10. Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina

11. Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State

12. Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU

13. Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina

14. Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas

15. Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma

16. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia

17. Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

18. Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame

19. Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri

20. D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama

21. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame

22. Alec Ogletree, OLB, Georgia

23. Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington

24. Datone Jones, DT, UCLA

25. Matt Elam, S, Florida

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**beerlover** · 03-02-2013

Jarvis Jones #1 overall? dude skipped the combine, has a medical red flag & Kipper jumps him ahead of the pack? says about all you need to know

**Playoffs** · 03-02-2013

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Originally Posted by beerlover

Jarvis Jones #1 overall? dude skipped the combine, has a medical red flag & Kipper jumps him ahead of the pack? says about all you need to know

When I was at UT we used to bet on football to try to get some extra beer money. There was this guy we knew who was horrible at picking teams -- just awful. Three or four of us would get on the phone and call him to see who he liked, and we'd take the other side. It was an almost 80% winner over 3 years. He was our anti-tout.

Kiper is that guy for me. (Jimmy Clausen, anyone?)

Brisco_County · 03-03-2013

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Originally Posted by Playoffs

When I was at UT we used to bet on football to try to get some extra beer money. There was this guy we knew who was horrible at picking teams -- just awful. Three or four of us would get on the phone and call him to see who he liked, and we'd take the other side. It was an almost 80% winner over 3 years. He was our anti-tout.

Kiper is that guy for me. (Jimmy Clausen, anyone?)

I think the only value that Kiper adds to ESPN is that people love to hate him.

I have a friend who is a notoriously bad sports better. My other friends almost feel guilty betting against him. Almost.

**Lucky** · 03-03-2013

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Originally Posted by beerlover

Jarvis Jones #1 overall? dude skipped the combine, has a medical red flag & Kipper jumps him ahead of the pack? says about all you need to know

Kiper will change his rankings a half dozen times between now and the draft. So will the draftniks on the internet (and this board). Nothing new here.

**HOU-TEX** · 03-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Playoffs

When I was at UT we used to bet on football to try to get some extra beer money. There was this guy we knew who was horrible at picking teams -- just awful. Three or four of us would get on the phone and call him to see who he liked, and we'd take the other side. It was an almost 80% winner over 3 years. He was our anti-tout.

Kiper is that guy for me. (Jimmy Clausen, anyone?)

Ha, that's good stuff man.

Kiper's always been a joke to me. Before NFL Network, he used to be the only guy I could watch to get info on the draft. I grit my teeth at just the sight of him. Needless to say, I praised the Lord when NFLN came along. I just wish Shefter never left. Plus, they put morons like Irvin and Sapp on shows these days. I've written them many a time about these two clowns. They're driving me away from my favorite channel.

I think McShay would be the only person I trust less than Kiper on the draft

**Playoffs** · 03-23-2013

Kiper Mock 3

1 Luke Joeckel Kansas City Chiefs
2 Eric Fisher Jacksonville Jaguars
3 Sharrif Floyd Oakland Raiders
4 Dee Milliner Philadelphia Eagles
5 Ezekiel Ansah Detroit Lions
6 Dion Jordan Cleveland Browns
7 Geno Smith Arizona Cardinals
8 Jarvis Jones Buffalo Bills
9 Barkevious Mingo New York Jets
10 Jonathan Cooper Tennessee Titans
11 Lane Johnson San Diego Chargers
12 Cordarrelle Patterson Miami Dolphins
13 Star Lotulelei Tampa Bay Buccaneers
14 Tavon Austin Carolina Panthers
15 Sheldon Richardson New Orleans Saints
16 Kenny Vaccaro St. Louis Rams
17 Tyler Eifert Pittsburgh Steelers
18 Chance Warmack Dallas Cowboys
19 Manti Te'o New York Giants
20 D.J. Fluker Chicago Bears
21 Alec Ogletree Cincinnati Bengals
22 Justin Hunter St. Louis Rams
23 Keenan Allen Minnesota Vikings
24 Menelik Watson Indianapolis Colts
25 Sylvester Williams Minnesota Vikings
26 Eddie Lacy Green Bay Packers
27 DeAndre Hopkins Houston Texans
28 Desmond Trufant Denver Broncos
29 Xavier Rhodes New England Patriots
30 Bjoern Werner Atlanta Falcons
31 Datone Jones San Francisco 49ers
32 Matt Elam Baltimore Ravens

76Texan · 03-23-2013

5 receivers in the first round?

I hope it doesn't work out that way for the Texans.

Wolf6151 · 03-23-2013

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Originally Posted by Playoffs

Kiper Mock 3

1 Luke Joeckel Kansas City Chiefs
2 Eric Fisher Jacksonville Jaguars
3 Sharrif Floyd Oakland Raiders
4 Dee Milliner Philadelphia Eagles
5 Ezekiel Ansah Detroit Lions
6 Dion Jordan Cleveland Browns
7 Geno Smith Arizona Cardinals
8 Jarvis Jones Buffalo Bills
9 Barkevious Mingo New York Jets
10 Jonathan Cooper Tennessee Titans
11 Lane Johnson San Diego Chargers
12 Cordarrelle Patterson Miami Dolphins
13 Star Lotulelei Tampa Bay Buccaneers
14 Tavon Austin Carolina Panthers
15 Sheldon Richardson New Orleans Saints
16 Kenny Vaccaro St. Louis Rams
17 Tyler Eifert Pittsburgh Steelers
18 Chance Warmack Dallas Cowboys
19 Manti Te'o New York Giants
20 D.J. Fluker Chicago Bears
21 Alec Ogletree Cincinnati Bengals
22 Justin Hunter St. Louis Rams
23 Keenan Allen Minnesota Vikings
24 Menelik Watson Indianapolis Colts
25 Sylvester Williams Minnesota Vikings
26 Eddie Lacy Green Bay Packers
27 DeAndre Hopkins Houston Texans
28 Desmond Trufant Denver Broncos
29 Xavier Rhodes New England Patriots
30 Bjoern Werner Atlanta Falcons
31 Datone Jones San Francisco 49ers
32 Matt Elam Baltimore Ravens

He's got us passing on Desmond Trufant and Xavier Rhodes. I know WR is a much bigger need, but passing on some high quality CB's is gonna hurt.

Fred · 03-23-2013

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Originally Posted by Playoffs

Kiper Mock 3

21 Alec Ogletree Cincinnati Bengals

Talk about typecasting...

**mexican_texan** · 03-23-2013

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Originally Posted by Fred

Talk about typecasting...

Could be a Moneyball thing. You get talented players at a steep discount when they've had issues in the past. You just have to determine whether their contribution is worth potential problems.

**Playoffs** · 03-23-2013

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Originally Posted by 76Texan

5 receivers in the first round?

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Originally Posted by Wolf6151

He's got us passing on Desmond Trufant and Xavier Rhodes...

It's Kiper ...... with his inverted draft compass.

**Playoffs** · 04-05-2013

Mock 4.0

1 Kansas City Chiefs Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
2 Jacksonville Jaguars Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
3 Oakland Raiders Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
4 Philadelphia Eagles Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
5 Detroit Lions Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
6 Cleveland Browns Dion Jordan, OLB/DE, Oregon
7 Arizona Cardinals Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
8 Buffalo Bills Johnathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
9 New York Jets Barkevious Mingo, OLB/DE, LSU
10 Tennessee Titans Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
11 San Diego Chargers Lane Johnson, LT, Oklahoma
12 Miami Dolphins D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
13 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
14 Carolina Panthers Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
15 New Orleans Saints Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
16 St. Louis Rams Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
17 Pittsburgh Steelers Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
18 Dallas Cowboys Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
19 New York Giants Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
20 Chicago Bears Manti Te’o, MLB, Notre Dame
21 Cincinnati Bengals Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
22 St. Louis Rams (from WAS) Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
23 Minnesota Vikings Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
24 Indianapolis Colts Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
25 Minnesota Vikings (from SEA) Kevin Minter, LB, LSU
26 Green Bay Packers Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
27 Houston Texans Robert Woods, WR, USC
28 Denver Broncos D.J. Hayden, CB, Denver Broncos
29 New England Patriots Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
30 Atlanta Falcons Kyle Long, OL, Oregon
31 San Francisco 49ers Margus Hunt, DT, SMU
32 Baltimore Ravens Johnathan Cyprien, S, Florida Int’l

33 Jacksonville QB Matt Barkley USC
34 San Francisco (via KC) S Matt Elam Florida
35 Philadelphia OT Menelik Watson Florida State
36 Detroit DE Bjoern Werner Florida State
37 Cincinnati (via OAK) S Shamarko Thomas Syracuse
38 Arizona DE Datone Jones UCLA
39 New York Jets TE Zach Ertz Stanford
40 Tennessee WR Keenan Allen Cal-Berkeley
41 Buffalo QB Ryan Nassib Syracuse
42 Miami DE Tank Carradine Florida State
43 Tampa Bay CB Jamar Taylor Boise State
44 Carolina S D.J. Swearinger South Carolina
45 San Diego LB Arthur Brown Kansas State
46 St. Louis RB Montee Ball Wisconsin
47 Dallas OL Justin Pugh Syracuse
48 Pittsburgh OLB Cornelius Washington Georgia
49 New York Giants LB Sio Moore Connecticut
50 Chicago DT Jesse Williams Alabama
51 Washington CB Bildi Wreh-Wilson Connecticut
52 Minnesota DT Kawann Short Purdue
53 Cincinnati CB Johnthan Banks Mississippi State
54 Miami (from IND) CB Robert Alford S.E. Louisiana
55 Green Bay S J.J. Wilcox Georgia Southern
56 Seattle DT Johnathan Hankins Ohio State
57 Houston DT John Jenkins Georgia
58 Denver DE Damontre Moore Texas A&M
59 New England CB Tyrann Mathieu LSU
60 Atlanta LB Khaseem Greene Rutgers
61 San Francisco TE Gavin Escobar San Diego State
62 Baltimore OT Terron Armstead Arkansas-Pine Bluff

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Playoffs Subscribed Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,468 Rep Power: 55348	Re: Kiper Mock 4.0 Mock 4.0 1 Kansas City Chiefs Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M 2 Jacksonville Jaguars Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3 Oakland Raiders Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida 4 Philadelphia Eagles Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia 5 Detroit Lions Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama 6 Cleveland Browns Dion Jordan, OLB/DE, Oregon 7 Arizona Cardinals Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan 8 Buffalo Bills Johnathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina 9 New York Jets Barkevious Mingo, OLB/DE, LSU 10 Tennessee Titans Chance Warmack, G, Alabama 11 San Diego Chargers Lane Johnson, LT, Oklahoma 12 Miami Dolphins D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama 13 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah 14 Carolina Panthers Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri 15 New Orleans Saints Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia 16 St. Louis Rams Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia 17 Pittsburgh Steelers Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame 18 Dallas Cowboys Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina 19 New York Giants Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington 20 Chicago Bears Manti Te’o, MLB, Notre Dame 21 Cincinnati Bengals Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia 22 St. Louis Rams (from WAS) Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas 23 Minnesota Vikings Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee 24 Indianapolis Colts Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State 25 Minnesota Vikings (from SEA) Kevin Minter, LB, LSU 26 Green Bay Packers Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama 27 Houston Texans Robert Woods, WR, USC 28 Denver Broncos D.J. Hayden, CB, Denver Broncos 29 New England Patriots Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee 30 Atlanta Falcons Kyle Long, OL, Oregon 31 San Francisco 49ers Margus Hunt, DT, SMU 32 Baltimore Ravens Johnathan Cyprien, S, Florida Int’l 33 Jacksonville QB Matt Barkley USC 34 San Francisco (via KC) S Matt Elam Florida 35 Philadelphia OT Menelik Watson Florida State 36 Detroit DE Bjoern Werner Florida State 37 Cincinnati (via OAK) S Shamarko Thomas Syracuse 38 Arizona DE Datone Jones UCLA 39 New York Jets TE Zach Ertz Stanford 40 Tennessee WR Keenan Allen Cal-Berkeley 41 Buffalo QB Ryan Nassib Syracuse 42 Miami DE Tank Carradine Florida State 43 Tampa Bay CB Jamar Taylor Boise State 44 Carolina S D.J. Swearinger South Carolina 45 San Diego LB Arthur Brown Kansas State 46 St. Louis RB Montee Ball Wisconsin 47 Dallas OL Justin Pugh Syracuse 48 Pittsburgh OLB Cornelius Washington Georgia 49 New York Giants LB Sio Moore Connecticut 50 Chicago DT Jesse Williams Alabama 51 Washington CB Bildi Wreh-Wilson Connecticut 52 Minnesota DT Kawann Short Purdue 53 Cincinnati CB Johnthan Banks Mississippi State 54 Miami (from IND) CB Robert Alford S.E. Louisiana 55 Green Bay S J.J. Wilcox Georgia Southern 56 Seattle DT Johnathan Hankins Ohio State 57 Houston DT John Jenkins Georgia 58 Denver DE Damontre Moore Texas A&M 59 New England CB Tyrann Mathieu LSU 60 Atlanta LB Khaseem Greene Rutgers 61 San Francisco TE Gavin Escobar San Diego State 62 Baltimore OT Terron Armstead Arkansas-Pine Bluff

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Playoffs Subscribed Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,468 Rep Power: 55348	Kiper post Combine top 25 1. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia 2. Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida 3. Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan 4. Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon 5. Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M 6. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama 7. Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU 8. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah 9. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama 10. Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina 11. Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State 12. Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 13. Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina 14. Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas 15. Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma 16. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia 17. Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee 18. Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame 19. Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri 20. D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama 21. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame 22. Alec Ogletree, OLB, Georgia 23. Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington 24. Datone Jones, DT, UCLA 25. Matt Elam, S, Florida http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...-new-big-board

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