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Old 06-26-2005   #61
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I read the list and frankly, I think that this guy is off his rocker.

This list, has Testaverde listed as the 10th most valuable FA. Come on, I'm a fan of his too, but, number 10 ?

The guy's list looks shaky, that's all...JMO


Now, don't get me wrong, I think that Verba is a good player and if he's changed into a classy person all of a sudden, then cool we should sign him. And even if he hasn't, big whoop, we've brought on a couple headcases lately anyways right.........the problem is the $37.5 million that he wants. If '31' is his prime then I'd have to say that he's going to be out of his prime very soon. I've never heard of 31 being the PRIME year........but, OK, I'll give it to you. The problem is still the money......If I own a fantasy SIM league, then sure I sign him.........but, if I'm Casserly, then I have to think hard about the guy 'being in his prime 31' and the amount of money he wants with it. If he takes a small bonus then sure, sign away.....but, he wants his big deal and I'm pretty sure, he wants a comparable signing bonus.
I've always heard an athlete's prime is typically 28-32. Usually physical maturity, experience, and ability make that an athlete's peak. Now, I understand that really good OL may even last a bit longer.
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Default No love for Verba -

This was over at Foxsports on players to avoid in FA

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3713828

Tackles — Ross Verba and Kyle Turley
Ross Verba took the Oasis approach this off-season, proudly boasting that he's the best in the game, making some corners of the football world snicker. But, like the brothers Gallagher once claimed, if you tell everyone you're the best, maybe half of them are silly enough to believe you.

However, for those of us in the other fifty percent, we realize Verba is no Anthony Muñoz, and his off-season holdout in Cleveland (before being released) was approaching comical. Personally, I wouldn't necessarily need an offensive tackle around my locker room that acted like he was the straw that stirred the drink. Especially if that drink went 4-12 last season and couldn't move the ball.

Oh yeah, and if Kyle Turley were as focused at staying healthy and controlling his temper as he is at adding tattoos, he wouldn't be on this list either.


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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2092239
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I've always heard an athlete's prime is typically 28-32. Usually physical maturity, experience, and ability make that an athlete's peak. Now, I understand that really good OL may even last a bit longer.
I agree...The leagues best linemen are always in their late 20's to the mid 30's since it takes a couple of years of mistakes and adjusting from the College game to become a refined product. You just don't see the same speed and quickness across the board in 260-300 pound men in College. Linemen generally don't have to worry about losing a step in thier 40-times, so if they avoid injury they tend to have long careers if they are good.
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So do you give a 5yr 37.5 million deal, to a guy nearing the end of his prime ?
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So do you give a 5yr 37.5 million deal, to a guy nearing the end of his prime ?
My opinion on Verba is the same as it has always been. That has nothing to do with his age (he could play for another 4-5 years). We could pay him a 700 Billion dollar contract for a million years for all I care as long as he doesn't have a large bonus.
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My opinion on Verba is the same as it has always been. That has nothing to do with his age (he could play for another 4-5 years). We could pay him a 700 Billion dollar contract for a million years for all I care as long as he doesn't have a large bonus.
Just make sure that at the top of the "To-do list" it says: 'Cut Ross before checks are mailed'
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just cut him in year 3 of his back-loaded million year contract. Nothing but the bonus will have cap implications.
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just cut him in year 3 of his back-loaded million year contract. Nothing but the bonus will have cap implications.
Right. The guy can have a scheduled salary that has him getting more than
all the money Ken Lay, Jeff Skilling, and Andrew Fastow ever got their collective piggy hands on from Enron, but if it don't qualify as guaranteed its all funny money until he's got it in his account.
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Those guys would probably make great NFL capoligists.
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Yea, I generally knew that's all you had to do. I guess making jokes while I'm at work doesn't go together too well.
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If he'd shut his yap and given the new-era Browns a try, offensive tackle Ross Verba would've gotten paid well in 2005 -- more than $3 million.

Instead, he ran his mouth and forced his way out of Cleveland, in the hopes of bagging a long-term deal worth $30 to $35 million.

And now he's got nothing.

Well, not nothing. But close to it. We hear that the only team with serious interest in Verba is the Texans, and they're offering him less than what the Browns paid Verba's replacement, L.J. Shelton.

Don't be surprised if Verba simply walks away from the game.
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so is he coming or not? I have heard nothing about him in weeks.
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Verba would be great to add @ a 3year deal worth15 million. casserly will be crazy not to if he dosent hell be doing this :brickwall verba is on of the 10 best LT in the game. Carr without him
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He will come to houston trust me i have an inside source that says so. Casserly will make sure hes here by camp . Remember this thread folks
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if he comes here or not, the thing to do in the meantime is to say his name but roll the r, so its like verrrrrrrrrrba. god, i hate this time of year.
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Verba will only get the vet min from whoever he signs with.
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He will come to houston trust me i have an inside source that says so.
...so I guess I can go ahead and place my order for my Verba Texans jersey?
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Verba would be great to add @ a 3year deal worth15 million. casserly will be crazy not to if he dosent hell be doing this :brickwall verba is on of the 10 best LT in the game. Carr without him

Waste of money IMO. slow, fat, on the downside of his career. and the one of the 10 best LT in the league, thats a matter of opinion. he might be a top 20 LT, but not a top 10. top 10 guys don't stay free agents for long and usually get what they want.
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Waste of money IMO. slow, fat, on the downside of his career. and the one of the 10 best LT in the league, thats a matter of opinion. he might be a top 20 LT, but not a top 10. top 10 guys don't stay free agents for long and usually get what they want.
name the LTs that are better, not many, top 10 seems about right, he wouldnt have stayed a free agent if he didnt demand so high, and he had been released prior to the draft
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