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Old 06-24-2005   #41
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The way I see it?

The front office knows much more than we, the fans, do. Sometimes there may be a method to their madness that cannot be explained in the immediate future.

I will not say the Texans are without their problems, they certainly have them and that is to be expected for a 3-4 year old football team. It often seems to me that the cookie-cutter society fans believe all issues can be resolved at once.

What I do know is that defense seems to win championships more than offense. I know that even though we had some key names that no one wanted to lose on defense, that we still had a defense ranked closer to the bottom of the league. What I saw this offseason? I saw the Texans make changes to that side of the ball that seems to have had more problems overall.

What have they done on the offensive side? Not alot personnel wise. However, as most educated players, coaches, and fans have stated over the years, lines benefit more with time to gel. This will be the first year the Texans give that possibility to the line. What I have also seen is them sticking to their plan and not faultering because the fans are impatient. I see a front office that would rather pass for subpar lineman in this draft and subpar lineman in FA versus making the fans happy for an average player just to satisfy the fans. I see a front office that may have the forsight to see there are potentially 4-5 LT's that may be 1st round draft potential next year that provides a better long term solution than anything we could've gotten this year.

Just because the team didn't address things the way you WANTED, doesn't mean there isn't a master plan that could allow this to work out. I want to see Carr protected from the blind side as much as anybody and the past dictates this year may be similar to the past years. However, I will let the games begin before I decide that their moves, or lack of moves, did or did not work.

that post deserves 3 smilies!
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Well said so no more posts on this topic until week 5!! No more bored speculation, enjoy the summer fall will be here soon enough.
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Speculate all you guys want but to just run down the team day after day after day is trolling, not speculating.
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sorry to sound so arrogant even preachers in training can be real jerks.
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wasn't commenting to you specifically....just trying to define trolling a bit.
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You can put lipstick on a pig, but that doesn't turn it into Eva Longoria.
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You can put lipstick on a pig, but that doesn't turn it into Eva Longoria.
Once again Porky sums it up nicely, and leaves us with a less than desireable mental picture.
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You can put lipstick on a pig, but that doesn't turn it into Eva Longoria.
What if in a miraculous twist it were possible yet way more beautiful than Eva? That would be worth checking into.
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What if in a miraculous twist it were possible yet way more beautiful than Eva? That would be worth checking into.
That is what I would call "boared" speculation.
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NFL | Verba Receiving Minimum Salary Offers
Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:52:46 -0700

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports free agent OT Ross Verba (Browns) has suggested he wants a contract worth $6-7 million per year, but has seen only minimum-salary offers so far.

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i'd give him a 1 year 2 million or so offer, its cap space we are not going to use and has absolutely no long term ramification.


I just think adding more competition going into camp can only be a good thing and there are no gauruntees of being free from injury. Verba isn't bad at all he can play 4 positions on the line which might come in handy.
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i'd give him a 1 year 2 million or so offer, its cap space we are not going to use and has absolutely no long term ramification.
If we pay him 2 mil, might as well sign him to a 2 or 3 year deal at 2 mil and throw in incentives, he probably wouldn't be worth the 2 mil for one year. I mean all he is getting now is minimum offers...I mean like you said, he is solid and versatile, but say we pay him 2 mil for one season and he doesn't see one snap?
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NFL | Verba Receiving Minimum Salary Offers
Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:52:46 -0700

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports free agent OT Ross Verba (Browns) has suggested he wants a contract worth $6-7 million per year, but has seen only minimum-salary offers so far.

So it looks like Verba will be retiring.
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we pay him 2 million for 1 season and he doesn't play 1 snap, well he probably did something in practice and next year he isn't on the books and we arn't gonna sign any more free agents.. we have enough money including the rookie cap, He could be a stop gap until next year when we can more vigorously focus on the position.
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we pay him 2 million for 1 season and he doesn't play 1 snap, well he probably did something in practice and next year he isn't on the books and we arn't gonna sign any more free agents.. we have enough money including the rookie cap, He could be a stop gap until next year when we can more vigorously focus on the position.
Nevermind, I misunderstood your first post, my bad...
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Texans | Still Trying to Land Verba?
Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:36:50 -0700

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Houston Texans remain interested in free agent OT Ross Verba (Browns), but are unwilling to offer more than a one-year contract to the offensive tackle. As reported, Verba has said he's seeking a five-year contract worth in the neighborhood of $37.5 million.

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Why don't the Texans go after OT Chris Terry ?

I know he's got off-the-field history, but so does Verba........and last I heard Terry doesn't want 37 million.

I've also read in a couple different magazines that Terry's footwork is good enough to play the Left side.

That said, I think the Center spot is the pressing need, since Pitts is capable of playing LT.

If it was up to me I'd sign the O-lineman that I thought could best play the Center spot. Whether there is a Guard/Tackle available that can play Center or Gennaro Dinapoli.....really, I don't know who the best available guy is, but if they do move Mckinney out of the Center spot, like they should, then they better have some respectable competition for Washington in Training Camp.
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"Here are the top 10 players still available on the NFL free-agent market:

1. Ross Verba, Left tackle: At 31, it can be argued that Verba might be headed for the downward part of his career and might be a risk for the $5 million-plus contract he seeks. What can't be argued is where he is now as a player. He's a top-level left tackle. Some scouting services have him in the top 10 at the position, and for a 31-year-old, that puts him in his prime. The Texans have the best chance of landing him because they have the cap room."
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That lists shows we're pursuing the top two guys, but I believe CC is looking at the right price. Whoever flinches first loses. If the FAs wait until someone goes down in camp, they might get more money. If not, we may get opportunity to sign them at our price.
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I read the list and frankly, I think that this guy is off his rocker.

This list, has Testaverde listed as the 10th most valuable FA. Come on, I'm a fan of his too, but, number 10 ?

The guy's list looks shaky, that's all...JMO


Now, don't get me wrong, I think that Verba is a good player and if he's changed into a classy person all of a sudden, then cool we should sign him. And even if he hasn't, big whoop, we've brought on a couple headcases lately anyways right.........the problem is the $37.5 million that he wants. If '31' is his prime then I'd have to say that he's going to be out of his prime very soon. I've never heard of 31 being the PRIME year........but, OK, I'll give it to you. The problem is still the money......If I own a fantasy SIM league, then sure I sign him.........but, if I'm Casserly, then I have to think hard about the guy 'being in his prime 31' and the amount of money he wants with it. If he takes a small bonus then sure, sign away.....but, he wants his big deal and I'm pretty sure, he wants a comparable signing bonus.
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