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Old 02-14-2013   #101
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Percy Harvin has the Minnesota Vikings in a pickle, and he knows it.

The whole NFL knows it, which only makes it more challenging to extract value from a dynamic, 24-year-old playmaker who has griped and priced his way towards the trading block, at least for now.

"Everybody thinks they can change guys," a personnel man for another NFC team said this week. "How's he going to be in a winning locker room with a solid quarterback? Stuff like that comes into play, and you begin to walk down that road or think, 'Oh, we could change this guy.'

"But (expletive), be careful, because if (expletive) does go wrong, you know who's going to be the first one up. And this is supposed to be a guy that you're paying as a leader."

Harvin wants more than that, though several factors -- a specialized skill set, a complicated medical history and a well-documented pattern of insubordination -- limit the marketplace for a player who, on talent alone, could practically name his price.

Word circulating in league circles is his agent, Joel Segal, is starting the bidding upwards of $10 million a season, which would make Harvin one of the NFL's 10 highest-paid receivers no matter what Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings and Dwayne Bowe command in free agency.

The real goal may be $12 million a year, if not higher -- more than any receiver except All-Pros Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. That kind of compensation is a bigger issue for teams that have discussed a deal for Harvin than the draft pick(s) it'd take to land him.
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The Texans didn't have to shell out the big money to Matt Schaub and Arian Foster last off-season. They could have waited until this off-season to decide what to do. Instead they paid both big money and released, didn't re-sign or traded several impact players like Mike Brisiel, Eric Winston, Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans and Jacoby Jones. This was after they cut ties with pro bowl fullback Vonta Leach and Bernard Pollard the previous off-season.

I don't want to hear about the Texans cap space because they have already lost several important players in recent off-seasons. Three of which have been huge contributors to the Super Bowl champion Ravens, when it should have been the Texans winning that Lombardi if Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak were a little smarter.

Talent hasn't been an issue for a long time with the Texans. They've gone into several seasons one of the most talented teams in the league. And all they have to show for it is two measly wild-card wins. That is what fuels the fire so much. Knowing we were better than what we accomplished.

Can we find a way to add Percy Harvin? You better damn well say we can because I don't want to hear any excuses about the salary cap anymore.
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Word circulating in league circles is his agent, Joel Segal, is starting the bidding upwards of $10 million a season, which would make Harvin one of the NFL's 10 highest-paid receivers no matter what Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings and Dwayne Bowe command in free agency.

The real goal may be $12 million a year, if not higher -- more than any receiver except All-Pros Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. That kind of compensation is a bigger issue for teams that have discussed a deal for Harvin than the draft pick(s) it'd take to land him.
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That's got to be a collective bargaining violation. Has the Vikings announced they are seeking a trade?
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Can we find a way to add Percy Harvin? You better damn well say we can because I don't want to hear any excuses about the salary cap anymore.
Well, Rick better get on it then.
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I think the Texans should at least look into it. Whether they should be overly serious about it or not may be another story. But with two different reports of the issues Harvin is having I think it warrants investigating. For instance today's report is that it isn't about money. It's about the scope of the offense the Vikings run that is making him unhappy. As a receiver some could understand his point. It's a run first offense to a degree more than our own which does strive for some semblance of balance. The Vikings don't even act like they have a passing game.

So is it money or is it the offensive scheme? Smith should look into that much to see what is what and if it is an option for the Texans.
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So is it money or is it the offensive scheme? Smith should look into that much to see what is what and if it is an option for the Texans.
But we'll have no idea if he did or did not. If Percy Harvin isn't in a Texans uniform, most won't believe that Rick Smith even inquired.

I personally don't care. Unless Harvin is traded somewhere else without a new contract. Or if that contract comes to less than $5M/yr. Then I'll be upset.

I'd much rather propose a trade for Eddie Royal, or Heyward-Bey, or a Malcolm Flyod... someone to stretch the field.
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http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-t...andre-johnson/

This is the elephant in the room

AJ
2013 cap hit 14,652,918
2014 cap hit 10,569,583
2015 cap hit 14,569,583
2016 cap hit 13,100,000

Its a impossible position.


None of us want AJ cut.
How could the Texans restruture his deal? Add more years I don't see that.
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Why did they pick 2014 for a low year?
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Why did they pick 2014 for a low year?
Possibly, because when they restructured, looking ahead, they still counted on being somewhat tight on cap space, but also counting on the fact that the allowable NFL salary cap limit would spike around or just after that time.........from what we now know concerning the future of that limit, they may have outsmarted themselves.
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Its a impossible position.
It isn't an impossible situation. It's what you pay for having a HoF talent.

Larry Fitzgerald

2013 - $10.25 mil
2014 - $18 mil
2015 - $21.25 mil
2016 - $18.25 mil

Calvin Johnson

2013 - $12.2 mil
2014 - $12.2 mil
2015 - $19.7 mil
2016 - $23.15 mil
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It isn't an impossible situation. It's what you pay for having a HoF talent.

Larry Fitzgerald

2013 - $10.25 mil
2014 - $18 mil
2015 - $21.25 mil
2016 - $18.25 mil

Calvin Johnson

2013 - $12.2 mil
2014 - $12.2 mil
2015 - $19.7 mil
2016 - $23.15 mil
How many superbowls have they won?
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How many superbowls have they won?
How many have the Bengals or the Jags won?
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How many superbowls have they won?
What does that have to do with freaking anything? One player is not a team. Getting rid of superstar WRs is idiocy. Guys like AJ do not come along often. He is not overpriced for his talent level. He would have gotten more if he chose to go on the open market.
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What does that have to do with freaking anything? One player is not a team. Getting rid of superstar WRs is idiocy. Guys like AJ do not come along often. He is not overpriced for his talent level. He would have gotten more if he chose to go on the open market.
i think the way the cap is spent has a lot to due with wether or not a team wins a superbowl. 14 mil a year for AJ is a high percentage of the cap I am in no way saying I dont want AJ here only that his cap number has to come down.
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http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-t...andre-johnson/

This is the elephant in the room

AJ
2013 cap hit 14,652,918
2014 cap hit 10,569,583
2015 cap hit 14,569,583
2016 cap hit 13,100,000

Its a impossible position.


None of us want AJ cut.
How could the Texans restruture his deal? Add more years I don't see that.
I see AJ getting cut or restructuring after the 2014 season. He's probably a future HOF but this league is all about what can you do for me now. And he will be 34 going into the 2015 season, if not mistaken. 14 million is a lot of dough to give to a 34 year old WR. Of course, everything depends on his production and health in the next two seasons.
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can we have a poll with two options, "puff" and "pass"?
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