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Old 01-14-2013   #21
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Did you see the way the defense changed when Cushing got injured? If Bradie James does't get resigned, which is a good possibility, then you have Cushing and Barrett Ruud. Sorry, but you will not win a super bowl with Barrett Ruud as your starting ILB. Ruud is a serviceable backup. Same goes with Dobbins. Sharpton has proven that he is pretty much incapable of playing good football. We need a stud like Minter from LSU to finally fill the hole that has been there since we let DeMeco go last season.
I agree that ILB is a need and it was a huge problem this year. That had more to do with Cushing going down than James or Dobbins. Those guys are serviceable. The other ILB comes off the field on 3rd down when we go Nickel. You going to use a 1st round pick on a guy who only plays 2 downs?

Look at San Francisco. Used 1st round picks on their stud MIKE (Willis) and their stud pass rusher (Smith). We did the same with Cushing and Watt. And hopefully Mercilus. Their other stud ILB was a 3rd round pick.

Even if you draft Minter he's not going to replace Cushing. He's still eventually a two-down player. If you draft a DB like Matt Elam (S, Florida)....he may not start and would only play in Nickel/Dime packages but he would eventually supplant Manning.

*I would also like to point out that the defense was more than serviceable, elite really, with James at ILB up until Cushing went down.
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What if we draft a 1st round Safety and he turns into an All-Pro. Bad decision?

Kubiak has stated they will be going BPA at the top of the draft and filling needs as it progresses.
Completely agree with the safety thing.

If you asked me "If you could draft a all-pro at any position outside of QB what position would it be?"

I'd say FS.

Look at the past great defenses, the Steelers and Ravens. They have had some of the best Safeties and so has past great defenses.

At the very least a ball hawking guy. Maybe Jairus Byrd? I haven't seen much of his game though...

But the point is, Texans get beat deep a lot because QBs don't even respect our safeties outside of Quinn. Just throw it up there, you'll get a P.I or a wide open 40+ yard pass.

Also, on the fly he can cover TEs.

We need another dynamic player up the middle on defense though. Whether it's a new NT that can constantly get a push up the middle, a new ILB, or a Safety...I'd take any.

I think the pass rush will get better naturally if we get any one of those three.
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Bulls on Parade? More like Fools on Parade!
While I'm not really keen on the whole "Bulls on Parade" mantra for the Texans (disclosure: love the actual song from RATM), this is pretty much the dumbest post I've read in 2013!!!


Feel honored, for being this year's "dumbest post ever" (for 2013). Don't fret! You'll get washed pretty quick!! Enjoy the honor for now!
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Plain and simple the value of Cushing has been seen this year. Watt is the best player on the defense but Cushing is MVP of our defense. Cushing calls the defense never leaves the field and is a beast in the running game and the 2nd best pass rusher on the team. The defense went down hill with his loss.
Yes. Think about all the times in the NE game where Brady called a quick play while the Texans D were still screwing around getting into position. Cush would never let the D do that as he would have them in position ready to go.
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Yes. Think about all the times in the NE game where Brady called a quick play while the Texans D were still screwing around getting into position. Cush would never let the D do that as he would have them in position ready to go AND READY to stick someone in the head!.
Yessir!!! BTW, I also added to what you stated.
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The other ILB comes off the field on 3rd down when we go Nickel. You going to use a 1st round pick on a guy who only plays 2 downs?
Bingo.

Why waste such a commodity (#1pick) on a player who's barely on the field? You want depth add a free agent or a 3-4th round pick. We'd actually get far more use out of a 3rd safety as we USE them and it might free up manning to be a full time kick returner. I'd love to see a legit monster nose tackle as well. Line him and cody up with all the others on a goaline defense and if it saves just a couple of scores over the course of a season it's probably worth it.

As far as barwin,

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I'd love to see a legit monster nose tackle as well. Line him and cody up with all the others on a goaline defense and if it saves just a couple of scores over the course of a season it's probably worth it.
That guy is here in this draft, but we have no shot at him.

Star Loutelei - DT, Utah

Guy has the size and can stuff the run and rush the passer. Very versatile across the front too.
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i'm now convinced on the NT upgrade
Everyone except the Texans are convinced. How much pressure have we gotten from our NTs? How many tackles? How many sacks?

Shaun Cody>>>>31 tackles>>>>>>2 pass defenses>>>>>>>0 sacks

Earl Mitchell>>>>17 tackles>>>>>>3 pass defenses>>>>>>>0 sacks

Totals>>>>>>>>58 tackles>>>>>>5 pass defenses>>>>>>>0 sacks

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That guy is here in this draft, but we have no shot at him.

Star Loutelei - DT, Utah

Guy has the size and can stuff the run and rush the passer. Very versatile across the front too.
This might be a good draft to trade up for an instant impact player. Maybe star is too far out of reach, but maybe someone else...

Or maybe include Tate in a package to sweeten the deal and get a little higher...
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in this day of age of Free agency yall know we will not be able to fix all our problems for both D and O thats why i think we should fix one problem at a time fix the SPecial teams and Offensive and if our D struggles fix that in 2014
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Everyone except the Texans are convinced. How much pressure have we gotten from our NTs? How many tackles? How many sacks?

Shaun Cody>>>>31 tackles>>>>>>2 pass defenses>>>>>>>0 sacks

Earl Mitchell>>>>17 tackles>>>>>>3 pass defenses>>>>>>>0 sacks

Totals>>>>>>>>58 tackles>>>>>>5 pass defenses>>>>>>>0 sacks

Mitchell had a FF.

Isaac Sopoaga San Francisco NT - 27 tackles, 0 FF, 0 FR, 0 PD, 1 sack

Casey Hampton Pittsburgh NT - 26 tackles, 0 FF, 0 FR, 0 TD, 0 sacks - 5 time probowler.
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Everyone except the Texans are convinced. How much pressure have we gotten from our NTs? How many tackles? How many sacks?

Shaun Cody>>>>31 tackles>>>>>>2 pass defenses>>>>>>>0 sacks

Earl Mitchell>>>>17 tackles>>>>>>3 pass defenses>>>>>>>0 sacks

Totals>>>>>>>>58 tackles>>>>>>5 pass defenses>>>>>>>0 sacks

i don't know the perecentage of time, but more than not the first person(s) out when the Texans go to the 4-2-5- is the NT. Watt and smith play DT and Olbs play DE. Not saying that these guys should not have lucked into a sack or so even out of base defense, but currently the NTs in Wade's system really are not fulltime players either alone or as a group.
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Yes, he can. I considered him the heart and soul of our defense even though J.J. Watt is our best defensive player and the defensive player of the year in the entire NFL. Look at the impact Ray Lewis is having on the Ravens during his emotional return for this year's playoffs. He's not even half the player he used to be talent wise but just having Ray Lewis changes the entire attitude of that team. A healthy Brian Cushing, is in my opinion, the best MLB/ILB in the game.
To think having Cush would of solved our problems is asinine. We got out-coached first of all, AND our QB cannot go score for score with the other top QBs in this league. Having Cush back will be nice, but its not a game changer.
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To think having Cush would of solved our problems is asinine. We got out-coached first of all, AND our QB cannot go score for score with the other top QBs in this league. Having Cush back will be nice, but its not a game changer.
I thought our defense played well against the Patriots yesterday. As well as they can play given their overall talent level. We held them down quite a few times in that first half. And that's saying something against the highest-scoring team in the league and on the road.

I feel it was deflating to our team morale to be down 17-13 at halftime. The Texans had chances to score more points and they should have led this game at halftime. That 3rd quarter (losing it 14-0) was the difference in the game. We had one bad quarter on defense, or at least one I would deem unacceptable, and that was the ball game given our offensive struggles. Put Cushing in there, I have even more confidence we could have played a strong defensive game for all four quarters, a la the game at Baltimore last season in the divisional round.
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First of all, I want to see our first rounder used on an offensive player. We need another playmaker at TE or WR. I would even be ok with drafting a RT.

But if we had to go defense, ILB is not the spot. Like others have mentioned, the ILB opposite Cushing doesn't play many snaps. If you understand our defense, we play alot of man coverage to try to take away the quick pass. That way, the blitz has some time to get to the QB. If that pass rush isn't getting to the QB, then our DBs are exposed for big plays. I truly believe the demise of our defense this season is all on the regression of Reed & Barwin. Sure, Cushing will help, as he's a better pass rusher than Bradie or Dobbins. But our defense desperately needs a pass rusher from the outside, because Watt is getting double too many times.

I'm hoping Mercilus will step up next season, as I don't think Barwin will get re-signed. But if we had to go defense in the first round, I'd like to see yet another pass rusher come on board.
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Why is none of this Wade's fault? Just wondering.
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Why is none of this Wade's fault? Just wondering.
Good question. Especially when you consider Brady put up a 40-burger on Wade's D in both games....

Maybe it was not having Cushing out there to bark instructions
orrrr... maybe it was the fact that Brady practices against a 3-4 front seven that's just flat better than ours EVERY WEEK. I kinda think Wade didn't show Brady anything he hadn't already seen in practice. Remember Belichick's previous job was D coordinator. So Belichick probably dissected Wade's philosophy and our personnel and showed Brady what to expect. And when/if Wade didn't really do anything new Brady probably knew what was coming.
And if Brady knows what's coming.....
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