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Old 01-13-2013   #21
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WR DeVier Posey tore his left Achilles tendon. He'll be out most, if not all, of next season with that. #Texans



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He looked really good out there. The guys on NFLN think the Texans need to aggressively go after another game changer on offense like how the Falcons traded up for Jones, maybe so now.
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WR DeVier Posey tore his left Achilles tendon. He'll be out most, if not all, of next season with that. #Texans



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Another horrible injury, especially for a WR.

Add that to our draft needs, now.
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ACL recovery is much more predictable and carries a more favorable prognosis than Achilles rupture. Furthermore, pointing to AP is like pointing to George Burns smoking until he died at 103.......and concluding that smoking doesn't shorten your life.
Doc, this kind of injury is depends on how much and where on Achilles tore right? I remember the last time you explained us about tore Achilles recovery is that he may not likely to recover 100% playing form but more like 80-90% right?
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Wasn't it an achilles injury that slowed down DeMeco Ryans after he returned? Hopefully Posey can recover and come back close to full speed for training camp or preseason...
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Doc, this kind of injury is depends on how much and where on Achilles tore right? I remember the last time you explained us about tore Achilles recovery is that he may not likely to recover 100% playing form but more like 80-90% right?
An NFL athlete will have surgical repair whether it is complete or partial rupture. Those that are not surgically repaired and treated conservatively historically have shown ~60% return to play as opposed to ~70% (i.e., never returned to play in the NFL) Historically, a wide receiver was found to have ~ 85% reduction in power rating in the years following repair. His youth as well as improved techniques will possibly factor in / benefit him regarding these numbers, but I cannot tell you how much.
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Wasn't it an achilles injury that slowed down DeMeco Ryans after he returned? Hopefully Posey can recover and come back close to full speed for training camp or preseason...
Like I said before, I wouldn't count on him next season.
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An NFL athlete will have surgical repair whether it is complete or partial rupture. Those that are not surgically repaired and treated conservatively historically have shown ~60% return to play as opposed to ~70% (i.e., never returned to play in the NFL) Historically, a wide receiver was found to have ~ 85% reduction in power rating in the years following repair. His youth as well as improved techniques will possibly factor in / benefit him regarding these numbers, but I cannot tell you how much.
Thank you as always for your professional comments Doc!
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Like I said before, I wouldn't count on him next season.
Yeah we'll be lucky if he comes back next season. I would count him out and draft 2 WRs this offseason. Or get one in FA if we can. Posey was shaping up to be a #3, not a #2 anyway.
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Default Re: Posey tore his Achilles.

If he comes back in time for the 2013 season, he won't be 100%. He'll do interviews and tell everyone who will listen that he's better than new, but it'll be a lie. And just so we keep fan exp[expectations in perspective, when Demeco came back and was still slowed by it, fans basically wrote him off. Even though he finally started to really come around at the end of the season, people argued that he was only a part time LBer, which was a result of his injury.

Don't expect much from Posey until 2014.
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Posey in 2014!!
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It's a shame. He was finally starting to show what he can do. I liked his YAC potential. He seems to be hard to bring down.
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If he comes back in time for the 2013 season, he won't be 100%. He'll do interviews and tell everyone who will listen that he's better than new, but it'll be a lie. And just so we keep fan exp[expectations in perspective, when Demeco came back and was still slowed by it, fans basically wrote him off. Even though he finally started to really come around at the end of the season, people argued that he was only a part time LBer, which was a result of his injury.

Don't expect much from Posey until 2014.
then you have a player who's last significant actual playing time was in 2010. He didn't play in 2011, 2012 he really didn't get on the field much at all and 2013 will be spent recuperating. I feel bad for Posey but he's fast falling into the Benny Joppru bizarro world at this point.
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Was Posey the one Kubiak was getting after for malingering at the beginning of the season? Or was that someone else?
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If he comes back in time for the 2013 season, he won't be 100%. He'll do interviews and tell everyone who will listen that he's better than new, but it'll be a lie. And just so we keep fan exp[expectations in perspective, when Demeco came back and was still slowed by it, fans basically wrote him off. Even though he finally started to really come around at the end of the season, people argued that he was only a part time LBer, which was a result of his injury.

Don't expect much from Posey until 2014.
Yeah and the bold was a ridiculous claim. Uninjured Patrick Willis, heralded by everyone, gets pulled on 3rd down or nickel and dime packages in SF a lot. During their game they said he only played 40% of snaps in the regular season meeting. When you go to nickel and dime someone has to come out.
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An NFL athlete will have surgical repair whether it is complete or partial rupture. Those that are not surgically repaired and treated conservatively historically have shown ~60% return to play as opposed to ~70% (i.e., never returned to play in the NFL) Historically, a wide receiver was found to have ~ 85% reduction in power rating in the years following repair. His youth as well as improved techniques will possibly factor in / benefit him regarding these numbers, but I cannot tell you how much.
This is what I mean by case studies. This particular injury is very unfortunate, especially for someone just beginning his career. Other than possibly losing Posey for next season, our potential big-play threat might end up a possession receiver. It absolutely sucks, and we need to go back to the draft.
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then you have a player who's last significant actual playing time was in 2010. He didn't play in 2011, 2012 he really didn't get on the field much at all and 2013 will be spent recuperating. I feel bad for Posey but he's fast falling into the Benny Joppru bizarro world at this point.
At least he was only a 3rd round pick.

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This really sucks. I expected him to become not only a regular starter next season, but THE legitimate #2 receiver next season.

To me, it actually hurts a lot worse than just the team losing. And it happens to him at the end of the game when the game is already lost. That really freaking sucks.

It's (performance-degradation wise) a career ending injury. Just SUCKS!

That 3rd round draft pick just vanished.
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2 receivers drafted this year and we need two more next year? The grades for Keyshawn and LeStar won't be good, Kevin didn't have a great year and Devier really won't know until 2014 how he will recover from this.
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