How to "slow down" the Pats offense and win this game

[Pats]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

You quoted the whole post.... but didn't read the whole thing.


Not a lot I can do for you.

Help yourself first.

Morons that believe the NE offense is the least of the Texans worries are seriously out to lunch.

[Playoffs]

I still say taking away his headbands and hair products will do the most damage to his psyche.

[Honoring Earl 34]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I'm all for being aggressive & ruthless & all that.... but why bring the kicker into this?

I'm ok with taking a 15 yard penalty for a RTP penalty, just don't see what abusing their kicker has to do with getting into Brady's head.

It's a stealth approach to break the kicker's leg and tell Tom he's next . You can break the trainers leg and tell Bill he's next . It's the way John Gotti coached Pop Warner .

[Pats]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I just heard the best analysis of how to play Tom Brady that I've ever heard. I've been hearing a lot of stup1d analysis, like you can't play man coverage to beat him.

I'm listening to Seth Payne & Ted Johnson (??) on 610am right now & they just said the only thing that makes sense.

1. We don't play zone; we're about to play the second best QB of our lifetime & we're supposed to all of a sudden be able to play zone coverages at the level that's going to be required to beat him? I don't think so.
   
   San Francisco did it... but we're not San Francisco. We don't have their linemen, we don't have their LBs, we don't have their safeties... yeah, our guys have strengths theirs do not (maybe not at the ILB position) but we don't have what they have that allows them to play excellent zone coverage. We just don't
   

Wrong

SF played man - to - man in the first half and shut Brady down. It was not zone. SF changed to zone in the 2nd half and Brady was able to move the ball.

This Bleacher report article was written by people like yourself (so take it with a grain of salt) nevertheless, it is correct in the fact that SF was in MAN first half and ZONE second half.

Enjoy http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-49ers-defense

[Honoring Earl 34]

Originally Posted by Pats

Wrong

SF played man - to - man in the first half and shut Brady down. It was not zone. SF changed to zone in the 2nd half and Brady was able to move the ball.

This Bleacher report article was written by people like yourself (so take it with a grain of salt) nevertheless, it is correct in the fact that SF was in MAN first half and ZONE second half.

Enjoy http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-49ers-defense

SF ILBs can cover is what I recall .

[Modest]

Originally Posted by MEGA SWATT

I think the Texans just got called for a 15 yd penalty.....and the game hasn't even started.

Why?


Because it's Tom Brady



Any and every opportunity, bring pressure on TB and knock the shhhh it out of him.

Yawn.

[patsfan13]

That is the problem for the Texans, they don't do much to disguise their coverage on a particular so the first read is determined by the pre snap read. Same for Welker Gronk Hernandez and so on, the routes are determined first by pre snap read and them by the reaction.

A couple of years ago Mangini beat the Pats while with Cleveland he had his people wandering around so Brady could get a pre snap read this is part of the reason they went to the hurry up.

They HAve to get consistent pressure up the middle while rushing 4 do that and you have a chance. The Ravens and Giants have been good at that and they give the PAts a tough time.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by patsfan13

That is the problem for the Texans, they don't do much to disguise their coverage on a particular so the first read is determined by the pre snap read. Same for Welker Gronk Hernandez and so on, the routes are determined first by pre snap read and them by the reaction.

True...... but I don't think it's for a lack of trying. We're just not good at it.

[gafftop]

The Pats are not invincible. Texans must play within themselves and I am talking about MS. If he starts trying to force it and make throws he is not capable of making it could get ugly fast . No penalties especially those that take away big plays or keep Brady on the field.
We need a couple of big plays on offense and a couple of TOs on defense and no TOs on offense.
We need to win in the trenches.
What I have said above is well within reason.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by gafftop

The Pats are not invincible. Texans must play within themselves and I am talking about MS. If he starts trying to force it and make throws he is not capable of making it could get ugly fast . No penalties especially those that take away big plays or keep Brady on the field.
We need a couple of big plays on offense and a couple of TOs on defense and no TOs on offense.
We need to win in the trenches.
What I have said above is well within reason.

I still think we're the most balanced team in the league. We've come out throwing the ball several times this year.

But I agree, Schaub doesn't extend plays, he doesn't need to start doing that today. He doesn't force the ball, he doesn't need to do that today.... at least, not until he needs to.

My biggest complaint of Matt, is that he doesn't seem to play with the urgency I think he needs. Every drive needs to end in a TD, every third down needs to be converted. I know noone scores on every possession & no one ever converts every third down, but some QBs play like it & others don't.

I don't want Matt to play that way today. I want him to play his game, but better than he's ever played it before.

[gafftop]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I still think we're the most balanced team in the league. We've come out throwing the ball several times this year.

But I agree, Schaub doesn't extend plays, he doesn't need to start doing that today. He doesn't force the ball, he doesn't need to do that today.... at least, not until he needs to.

My biggest complaint of Matt, is that he doesn't seem to play with the urgency I think he needs. Every drive needs to end in a TD, every third down needs to be converted. I know noone scores on every possession & no one ever converts every third down, but some QBs play like it & others don't.

I don't want Matt to play that way today. I want him to play his game, but better than he's ever played it before.

Exactly what I am saying. Still remember after last years game against Ravens thinking that if TJ had just played like he did against Bengals the week before we would have advanced.

[Daravenator]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I'm all for being aggressive & ruthless & all that.... but why bring the kicker into this?

I'm ok with taking a 15 yard penalty for a RTP penalty, just don't see what abusing their kicker has to do with getting into Brady's head.

Oops!

I meant RTP.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by gafftop

Exactly what I am saying. Still remember after last years game against Ravens thinking that if TJ had just played like he did against Bengals the week before we would have advanced.

True... I thought the same thing.

If we'd have scored 2 TDs in place of 2 FGs last week, that's 27 points. I don't care if Arian has to run all 3 TDs in from the one..... Bulls on Parade have to do their thing.

Doesn't matter to me if Schaub is in that "best QB" discussion or not. As long as the play-offs come home to H-Town.

[MEGA SWATT]

Time to slow the pats down