If the Texans get crushed next week @ Patriots, will that spark any changes?

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

Look at that team that's flying home tonight. Under Marvin Lewis, they are 0-4 in the play-offs. He's been the head coach of he Cincinnati Bengals since 2003, he's done just about everything you guys want Gary Kubiak to do. He's got a good (great) defensive coordinator. He's had two QBs that most of you would have taken over Schaub at some point. He's had high scoring offenses, he's had grinding offenses, he's had top 10 defenses, he's been very active in Free Agency.

He also got Jason Allen.

[Texanmike02]

Originally Posted by AndyWin

As an Aggie, this would be amazing
Although, I do question his arm strength and accuracy as a pocket passer. But his elusiveness and pocket presence are already lightyears ahead of Schaub ha

And yes I'd say the last decade being a Houston sports fan has made me a glass half empty kind of fan...

Pocket presence? Really? Dude Em needs a hand with analysis... You should call him.

Mike

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by AndyWin

Say the Patriots win 45-19
Say Schaub goes 22/40 with 220 yards 0 TDs and 2 INTs
Say Kubiak played conservative as hell, and kicked FGs while Brady scored TDs

Would there be any changes? No way management could find this season to really be a positive... if anything, it's the same as last season and maybe even worse because last season we had a rookie backup take us through the end.

If it were Pats today, all of those FGs we kicked would've been against TD passes from Brady and we would have never had a chance.

Why do I have a feeling we'll be going through this for years to come

say Watt one more time

[utahmark]

Originally Posted by AndyWin

Say the Patriots win 45-19
Say Schaub goes 22/40 with 220 yards 0 TDs and 2 INTs
Say Kubiak played conservative as hell, and kicked FGs while Brady scored TDs

Would there be any changes? No way management could find this season to really be a positive... if anything, it's the same as last season and maybe even worse because last season we had a rookie backup take us through the end.

If it were Pats today, all of those FGs we kicked would've been against TD passes from Brady and we would have never had a chance.
Why do I have a feeling we'll be going through this for years to come

Thats the second time I've heard this crap. We were not playing the Patriots.

Where have the 3rd down draw plays gone? What about Schaub with a QB sneak? Who is returning our kicks now? Have you noticed the play calling changing when it needs to change? Now we are going to complain about Kubiak kicking field goals against New England before the game starts? The field goals were needed to win the game we just played and I'm glad we kicked them.

To all those people bitching about the draws and some of the conservative play calling during the regular season please open your eyes and notice our healthy QB. Thankfully Kubiak can see beyond the next play and even beyond the next game unlike a lot of the posters on this board.

[utahmark]

Originally Posted by Playoffs

I'm guessing you're one of those 'glass half empty' kinda people.

Some of these guy's don't even have water in their glass.

[MEGA SWATT]

Originally Posted by Lucky

The head coach will be the same. The QB will be the same. The coordinators will be the same. There won't be any major change that stems from the result of next Sunday's game, win or lose.

I agree with that.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by utahmark

Some of these guy's don't even have water in their glass.

Hahahahahahahhahahahahaha, I laugh so hard!

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by deucetx

Only change I expect is Kubiak trying to find a way to make the system more flexible. The limitations of this offense is a hindrance. Can't see how Kubiak doesn't see that already. So hopefully that will take place and bringing a real receiving threat other than the obvious that we have already. It's time this offense has more options.

Other than that doubt there will be much else except I hope Marciano isn't brought back. Time to move on there. Every kickoff I'm nervous as hell lol.

You got that all wrong .... Its the limitations of the QB , not the offense.

But hey , the coach is the easiest guy to blame .... He doesnt get to suit up and make plays or make mistakes.

RG3 is running the exact same offense over in DC .... with a few wrinkles to take advantage of his strengths and mask his weaknesses. I guess that offense is a hinderance too ....


Best way for a coach to become a fan is to start listening to the fans .....

[coltfan123]

Originally Posted by utahmark

Thats the second time I've heard this crap. We were not playing the Patriots.

Where have the 3rd down draw plays gone? What about Schaub with a QB sneak? Who is returning our kicks now? Have you noticed the play calling changing when it needs to change? Now we are going to complain about Kubiak kicking field goals against New England before the game starts? The field goals were needed to win the game we just played and I'm glad we kicked them.

To all those people bitching about the draws and some of the conservative play calling during the regular season please open your eyes and notice our healthy QB. Thankfully Kubiak can see beyond the next play and even beyond the next game unlike a lot of the posters on this board.

some people just have to *****...texans could win the superbowl and there be peopel bitching we dont have two lol

[Norg]

of course there will be changes there are changes every year if u think about it in life and football in everything

but i for see "minor" changes u see the texans a runed by whatever rick smith and Kubes what it to be

so u can pretty much granturee that Joe Marcino and a few of his boys depth players will be gone

our kicker will be gone for our rookie draft pick

the punter willbe gone has well

Maybe the current ILB James dobbins and ruud and sharpton will all be gone

there will be changes trust me changes that in kubes and RIcks mind that will make our team better

Thats how it is in the NFL tho its a roll of the dice u never know if these changes will work or not

[gg no re]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

I don't think any of them are feeling stupid, nor should they.

Hell, it's not like Wilson was even a 1st rounder. He was like a 3rd rounder.

I thought the general perception of Wilson was that he was a 1st round talent were it not for his height.

If anything, the success of the vertically challenged like Wilson and Brees bodes well for Manziel (provided he continually works on his passing game).

[deucetx]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

You got that all wrong .... Its the limitations of the QB , not the offense.

But hey , the coach is the easiest guy to blame .... He doesnt get to suit up and make plays or make mistakes.

RG3 is running the exact same offense over in DC .... with a few wrinkles to take advantage of his strengths and mask his weaknesses. I guess that offense is a hinderance too ....


Best way for a coach to become a fan is to start listening to the fans .....

LOL way to overreact. Anyway, sorry, but it is you that got it wrong. Look at the original post and the question posed.

Done? Okay.

Now that you have done that let's try answering his question with some actual reality like I was doing. There are no purple clouds, flying pink elephants nor unicorns farting rainbows. This is reality. Schaub isn't going anywhere nor Kubiak, hence my answer. I am quite aware of Schaub's limitations since I have posted them in more than one place on this board.

So now that we know that Schaub isn't going anywhere then it falls upon the coach to find the best way to adjust the offense. Yes, I am aware it's the same in DC. Kind of a no **** Sherlock statement. At the same time the offense can be adjusted. Just like you pointed out was done in DC. It was also done with Jake Plummer who didn't have an amazing arm neither.

The point wasn't about blaming the coach as you 'assumed'. It's about adjusting to push pass the limitations of the offense and, yes, that includes the quarterback since that will smooth your desire to hate the guy. You know, like not having just one receiver capable of getting open deep without playaction? Or how about on 3rd and 8 not having just one receiver that runs a pattern pass the first down marker? Or how about getting a second receiver that helps stretch the field which would even make the underneath passes more open for Schaub's limited arm strength?

Heh, I swear some folks are a trip and just wish to read what they want.

[Thorn]

We made the playoffs two years in a row, and while Kubiak isn't the greatest of all head coaches, there isn't a lot left for the picking. Kubiak will be back as will Schaub. Whatever changes are made will be made in the lower coaching staff as they move on to other teams. And players always change. And next year we'll be back in the playoffs for the 3rd year in a row.

McNair likes it, so nothing major will happen. Book it.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by coltfan123

some people just have to *****...texans could win the superbowl and there be peopel bitching we dont have two lol

They'll be griping that we didn't have to play the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Or whatever other high powered team didn't make it.... or that we if we had to play the Giants & their pass rushers we wouldn't have stood a chance.

[nevadatuff]

Problem with the bengal win is they had a chance to beat us all the way till the final second because of our timid quarterback and inabillity to score touchdowns in the red zone...this game ball belongs to arian for putting schaub on his back....wake up schaub, check your package and kubiak lets open up the offense and quit leaving it up to the defense to save the offense every week in the final minutes of the game.....Lets get out to a lead and then keep pouring it on...Schaub Snap out of your funk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by gg no re

I thought the general perception of Wilson was that he was a 1st round talent were it not for his height.

If anything, the success of the vertically challenged like Wilson and Brees bodes well for Manziel (provided he continually works on his passing game).

What most people are not acknowledging, is that the NFL is great at adjusting. RG3 & Russell Wilson had great rookie seasons. We'll learn more about them & their coaching staffs next season.

No one in the NFC South is worried about Cam Newton any more. It's still Brees & now Matty Ice, who are more like Schaub than RG3 that will rule the South.

I'm not saying those guys won't be successful, I think RG3 has the skills to be an NFL QB, I think he's smart enough to be an NFL QB, & he's got the physical gifts. But there are a lot of guys like that who weren't successful & a lot of guys less talented who were.

3 years. It takes three years in the NFL before you know what you got in the draft. That goes for the guys who appear to struggle, like Kareem Jackson, & guys who found instant success, Terrance Newman.

[Cerberus]

Originally Posted by BullNation4Life

"IF" Title should read "When"

That's kind of my thought as well. It is a matter of "when" and not "if" with regard to the Texans losing to the Patriots. I'd love to see a Texan victory, but if I had to lay down a bet on this one I'd take the Pats.

[HJam72]

The minute I found out the Broncos got Manning, I would have laid everything I could down on the Broncos winning the SB, except for one, well, 2 things: 1 (and mainly), injuries can always happen, especially to him from that last season on...and,

2) I don't bet. I was trained to feel like they beat you the second you decide to take a chance against "the man" by my upbringing and "church".

[Foxboro Steve]

Texans will not get blown out this time.

[Big Lou]

Originally Posted by coltfan123

for a team that just won a playoff game that half the nfl picked bengals to win...just be happy for at least 24 hours

Wow, a Colts fan is showing more perspective than a lot of Texans Fans right now.


Thanks colts123, we need the positive mojo after a playoff win.