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Old 01-05-2013   #221
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The fact you just said that Matt Schaub could do what Eli Manning could do show me you have absolutely lost cred.... When has Matt Schaub EVER shown he could do anything like Eli Manning...
Learn how to read. I never said that in that post. I stated that no one thought that Eli could and he did. Not only in one season, but in two SB runs. What people thought was impossible wasn't exactly that. And for the record Schaub arguably had a better season then Eli did this year, so stop acting like Eli is some elite wizard when he isn't. Schaub won't ever be this guy to make tons of clutch plays. So what. He never has been. You just now figuring this out. This team's formula for winning isn't and never will go through Schaub. It doesn't have to though. We have to win with a great running game, minimal mistakes, and by allowing a low score from the other team.

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Then you need to do your research, like I said, I have been all over this team for the last month and even before that when they were winning ugly...
The research is that for the majority of the season we were a top 5 defense and until that slump we had on offense we were the 2nd and then the 3rd highest scoring team in the league. DO YOUR RESEARCH. They did fall apart, but that doesn't mean they can't pick it back up, nor does it mean they have to in order to beat NE.
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Has nothing to do with Madden. I've never even played Madden and think Fantasy football is the most ridiculous **** in the world. It's about the season being a series of games, one week at a time and some people focusing on the ultimate goal and where the Texans are in relation to that goal. Others are happy to get this weeks win and it makes the general state of "the quest" right now all better for them. Others still know that the team has put themselves in a tough spot and they're likely to get blasted next week in New England. Both groups are clearly annoyed with each other and tired of all the stupid sunshine pumping and pointless negativity that the other is bringing.

If the Texans win next weekend in New England all will be back on "The Right Track (TM)". If they don't this will be over for this season and it's on to draft and FA talk.
Exactly and the reason I said we put ourselves in a tough spot by nor winning home field advantage.

However I think some are still maddenized because they think we should blow teams out when the nfl is built on parity.
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Sadly we are having discussions about fans after a win. Enjoy the freakingmoment


Done with this thread, Monday I will discuss about the pats and how we got destroyed
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What did the Bengals look like today? LOL.

The Jags were up on the Patriots for most of the first half before Patriots finally remembered they were the better team.

Look, I get it: You look at RECORDS and that's what you base teams on. That's why you and Tex think the Texans are not worthy being downed by Texans fans.

12-4, we're in the playoffs and we just beat the Bengals! So, 1+1+1=A real chance vs. the Patriots next week.

Seriously, I have the right to my opinion and you yours.

I'm sorry but saying the Jaguars and the Bengals are on the same tier is not a opinion, it's just wrong.

I could see if the Jags were 9-7...but we are talking about a 2-14 team being on the same tier as a 10-6 team....I mean really...
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At least I'm not pissed.
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Why did the bengals look like they did?

Oh yeah Texans offense and defense
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Dude, all u do is pump out conspiracy theories about what u think is going on or happened & simultaneously play both sides of the fence..you are the worst kind of fan b/c whether we win or lose, you've always got something to say that "proves" you were "right".

So, im not surprised that you're in here with your "yeah we won, but...." Garbage. Its par for the course with you and a few others in here.
Man, all the teething you and I have done at each other over the years in here when our team was horrible or just average. Whether it was arguing over Kubiak or Rick Smith or Bob. You know I hate Kubiak's style of coaching and I'll never be confident in him as our HC, but I'll always root for us in the playoffs. I understand wanting a loss possibly when your team is horrible and losing may get rid of a bad HC or to get a #1 pick in the draft, but we've been considered the best team in the league by a lot of people for a majority part of the season. I don't see how certain fans or alleged fans could get this angry and bitter just because of slump at the end of the season to where they can't even be happy that we won a game to move on to the next week of the playoffs. That's what this game is all about. This is it!

Kudos Mr. Tex! I'll take any kind of win we can get in the playoffs.

Our defense completely dominated them today, and that's been the strength of our team all season. We looked closer to the team we've been all year.
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cant we just enjoy the win for at least a day!!!!
havnt read the entire 101pages of this thread but if most people agree with the title....there is something wrong with you
So enjoy!!!! I love it. I'm happy too.
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Maybe that's the point your missing. No one who is celebrating this win is completely happy with today's performance. We had way too damned many penalties at the wrong time (like there's ever a good time). Schaub completed 20 of 29 passes to RBs and TEs - where the hell are the WRs?? Special teams are giving up way too many yards on kickoffs. We still didn't convert but one of our redzone opportunities into a touchdown and had to settle for FGs again. Watt and Brooks still seem to be the only ones of our front seven that can muster a sack.

We see the warts. But despite those warts we won anyway. You say we beat a "lesser opponent". Maybe. But so frikkin' what?! We didn't make the schedule. We played whoever they sent here to play. Reliant is 2-0 in playoff land. And that's cause for celebration today.

And for the record, I don't expect to go up to New England and win. But I'm not going to let you steal my sunshine. Not today. There will be enough time for weeping and gnashing of teeth next week.
Yeah, we did make the schedule. We made it when we failed to show up against Minnesota and Indy. Other than that I got no issue with what you're saying. Enjoy your sunshine by all means.
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You have totally knee jerked on this team GP. You acted as if we were the team to beat going into the season, and the Texans did just that almost all season long. We end up having a few bad losses at the very end of the season, and you totally act like you have bailed on this team. I remember you getting upset when Rick Smith was criticized in the off season for some of his moves and getting this cap all messed up. Then you start all these threads whining because we couldn't get Manning when it was damn near impossible, but yet before the season you didn't want Rick Smith being criticized for his moves with this team's salary issues and his lack of moves to bring in a competent WR to compliment AJ. It was all about how great Martin would be even though he hadn't proved a thing. That was knee jerk as well. That is going from one extreme to the next with the drop of a hat.
Bail? LOL.

Aw hell, Tex. You are doing exactly what you do in the NSZ: LABELING.

It's just as sad here, btw.

You got me wrong on the Peyton Manning thing. I at first thought we should try for him, then I felt like maybe he was a liability with his neck, then I thought "Well hell, now it looks like we never even ATTEMPTED to look into the idea of getting him..." I went back and forth on that issue.

Dude, the Rick Smith issue? Yeah, he cannot control all factors. No GM can. Decisions were made by this FO that impacted and dictated moves that had to be made. I was OK with letting Dressen and Brisiel walk, couldn't match their offers. Was smart to re-sign Foster, Brown, and Myers. What's the alternative? Traded 'Meco, which saved cap room and frankly he wasn't being used by Wade much at all. Got a draft pick for him, a nice one, which is a rare thing for ANY Texans GM to have accomplished in 10 years here. Good for us. How is that knee-jerking? I don't see it, Tex. LOL.

Martin impressed in camp, and in the preseason, and really he had some slip-ups and Kubiak lost confidence in him. So I'm a bad fan for "bailing" on this team YET I had confidence in Martin and was excited about Kubiak's decision to give him major playing time? Isn't that a contradiction?

You're reaching, Tex. You're trying to paint me with a broad brush here, and it's not a masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination.

I giggled when Matt did the "Yessss!" hip thrust celebration move when we converted at the end of the game to keep the clock ticking. He has no clue how poorly he's been playing for like the last month+. He got a playoff win. Good. Now what? How does he solve the problem that is New England? He probably can't.

My only good feelings today were this: The fans in the stadium got to see our guys win, at home, and there wasn't a messy loss (at home) which would have been a real bummer for them.

Outside of that, there wasn't much to hang our hat upon today. The long passes Dalton missed with AJ Green...those won't be overthrown by Tom Brady. The passes dropped by Gresham and the others? Won't be dropped by Welker and Gronk and Gonzalez and Marshall and Woodhead. Everything the Bengals did today, the Pats won't do that. And everything the Bengals didn't do today, the Patriots WILL do.

We're about to face the same team we faced in New England on MNF. And we, Tex, are the same team they faced as well. How does that shake out, if all things are equal?

DISCLAIMER: I said this same thing the week leading up to the first contest between us and the Pats. I was also labeled a loser and an ******* back then, too. But then again...I'm a KNEE JERKER, right? Right.
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I put the Bengals in the same tier as the Jags and Lions and Bears...all those teams are teams we will beat. SHOULD beat.

I'm not going to sit here and pretend that a win vs. the Bengals means we have a good shot vs. the Pats.

To say so is just very homer'ish. I stopped being a homer the day David Carr went belly up here. I learned from that. But hey, I'm a bad fan. I forgot. I should leave.
There's a reason that the Bengals have not had an offensive TD in the last 3 games. This was a "monumental"battle of that team against a team that had 0 offensive TDs in the last 3 games.
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Next to you, anyone is the ultimate fan.
Wow. You are an real piece of work.
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would you be happeir if they lost?
Probably. He predicted the Texans to lose badly and then he posts that he isn't happy that they won. Same for almost every other person in this thread that is mad about us winning ugly, just check the prediction thread it's the same people.
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Yeah, we did make the schedule. We made it when we failed to show up against Minnesota and Indy. Other than that I got no issue with what you're saying. Enjoy your sunshine by all means.
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There's a reason that the Bengals have not had an offensive TD in the last 3 games. This was a "monumental"battle of that team against a team that had 0 offensive TDs in the last 3 games.
There is also a reason that they are 10-6 and won the last 7 out of 8 games. Their defense is nothing to laugh at.

Everyone here always talks about "Momentum! GOING INTO THE PLAYOFFS COLD!!!!"

Texans have now proved that theory wrong two years in a row now.
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Man, all the teething you and I have done at each other over the years in here when our team was horrible or just average. Whether it was arguing over Kubiak or Rick Smith or Bob. You know I hate Kubiak's style of coaching and I'll never be confident in him as our HC, but I'll always root for us in the playoffs. I understand wanting a loss possibly when your team is horrible and losing may get rid of a bad HC or to get a #1 pick in the draft, but we've been considered the best team in the league by a lot of people for a majority part of the season. I don't see how certain fans or alleged fans could get this angry and bitter just because of slump at the end of the season to where they can't even be happy that we won a game to move on to the next week of the playoffs. That's what this game is all about. This is it!

Kudos Mr. Tex! I'll take any kind of win we can get in the playoffs.

Our defense completely dominated them today, and that's been the strength of our team all season. We looked closer to the team we've been all year.
You two should get a room.

BFD. He and I have high-fived each other in the NSZ forum and have gone at each other's throats here in the Texans forum. Get a clue: We can all agree elsewhere and yet be at odds in other forums and other topics.

LOL. Man, you're reaching new lows here. Internet high-fiving someone while downing other posters. Way to go. You ARE the ultimate fan, Tex.

I need to check out of this thread before the **** rises above my waders.
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Bail? LOL.

Aw hell, Tex. You are doing exactly what you do in the NSZ: LABELING.

It's just as sad here, btw.

You got me wrong on the Peyton Manning thing. I at first thought we should try for him, then I felt like maybe he was a liability with his neck, then I thought "Well hell, now it looks like we never even ATTEMPTED to look into the idea of getting him..." I went back and forth on that issue.

Dude, the Rick Smith issue? Yeah, he cannot control all factors. No GM can. Decisions were made by this FO that impacted and dictated moves that had to be made. I was OK with letting Dressen and Brisiel walk, couldn't match their offers. Was smart to re-sign Foster, Brown, and Myers. What's the alternative? Traded 'Meco, which saved cap room and frankly he wasn't being used by Wade much at all. Got a draft pick for him, a nice one, which is a rare thing for ANY Texans GM to have accomplished in 10 years here. Good for us. How is that knee-jerking? I don't see it, Tex. LOL.

Martin impressed in camp, and in the preseason, and really he had some slip-ups and Kubiak lost confidence in him. So I'm a bad fan for "bailing" on this team YET I had confidence in Martin and was excited about Kubiak's decision to give him major playing time? Isn't that a contradiction?

You're reaching, Tex. You're trying to paint me with a broad brush here, and it's not a masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination.

I giggled when Matt did the "Yessss!" hip thrust celebration move when we converted at the end of the game to keep the clock ticking. He has no clue how poorly he's been playing for like the last month+. He got a playoff win. Good. Now what? How does he solve the problem that is New England? He probably can't.

My only good feelings today were this: The fans in the stadium got to see our guys win, at home, and there wasn't a messy loss (at home) which would have been a real bummer for them.

Outside of that, there wasn't much to hang our hat upon today. The long passes Dalton missed with AJ Green...those won't be overthrown by Tom Brady. The passes dropped by Gresham and the others? Won't be dropped by Welker and Gronk and Gonzalez and Marshall and Woodhead. Everything the Bengals did today, the Pats won't do that. And everything the Bengals didn't do today, the Patriots WILL do.

We're about to face the same team we faced in New England on MNF. And we, Tex, are the same team they faced as well. How does that shake out, if all things are equal?

DISCLAIMER: I said this same thing the week leading up to the first contest between us and the Pats. I was also labeled a loser and an ******* back then, too. But then again...I'm a KNEE JERKER, right? Right.
I can make that post in............LESSS THAN YOU!!!!!!!
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There is also a reason that they are 10-6 and won the last 7 out of 8 games. Their defense is nothing to laugh at.

Everyone here always talks about "Momentum! GOING INTO THE PLAYOFFS COLD!!!!"

Texans have now proved that theory wrong two years in a row now.
You need no momentum to beat a team like the Bengals.

All you have to do is grind it out. You can't "grind it out" vs. the Patriots.

We tried that already, remember? Did you watch the MNF game? We tried to grind it out, and it lasted about 7 minutes into the first quarter...then the Patriots punched us in the proverbial nose and we proverbially layed down and cried "Uncle!"

But all that's gonna' change, right? I want to know by what miracle Gary Kubiak and Matt Schaub are going to reverse all of this.
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Man, all the teething you and I have done at each other over the years in here when our team was horrible or just average. Whether it was arguing over Kubiak or Rick Smith or Bob. You know I hate Kubiak's style of coaching and I'll never be confident in him as our HC, but I'll always root for us in the playoffs. I understand wanting a loss possibly when your team is horrible and losing may get rid of a bad HC or to get a #1 pick in the draft, but we've been considered the best team in the league by a lot of people for a majority part of the season. I don't see how certain fans or alleged fans could get this angry and bitter just because of slump at the end of the season to where they can't even be happy that we won a game to move on to the next week of the playoffs. That's what this game is all about. This is it!

Kudos Mr. Tex! I'll take any kind of win we can get in the playoffs.

Our defense completely dominated them today, and that's been the strength of our team all season. We looked closer to the team we've been all year.
I agree, and its sad, embarassing really....there are 20 other teams sitting at home...some who's collective season was over by like week 8 that have real gripes about their teams.....and we've got fans over here who can't even enjoy their team advancinginto the playoffs not even for 24 hours b/c it wasn't as dominant of a performance as they would've liked or b/c we're going to play a team in their house as opposed to ours and likely lose.....as if it was guaranteed we would beat them here...it appears a few in here OD'ed on the koolaid earlier in the season when we were 11-1 and had convinced themselves we were SB bound...now b/c it appears that's unlikely, they feel betrayed. ....in any event, thats not problem...im going to celebrate.. and worry about next week.....next week
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There's a reason that the Bengals have not had an offensive TD in the last 3 games. This was a "monumental"battle of that team against a team that had 0 offensive TDs in the last 3 games.
In an effort to get back to talking FOOTBALL...

Didn't you say that one of your chief concerns about Matt's recovery was how his foot would hold up over a full 16-game schedule, especially with the severity of his injury?

Today you were making a lot of posts about the position of his foot in regards to the outcome of those throws.

I think I remembered you drawing attention to the potential for "wear and tear" back during the camp and preseason threads here. Is that maybe part of the problem with him down the stretch this past month?
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