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Old 12-16-2013   #1321
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He doesnt have to tell players anything, just make sure that Keenum does not have a hot read when he is blitzed. Easy tank
BS. Wade and Dennison aren't playing to get fired.

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The Colts tanked. Yes or no? You think their owner had anything to do with it?
Not in the way you mean it. They did not intentionally call bad plays or schemes.

Yes they made a decision not to pay a few mil to upgrade the QB position for a couple meaningless wins. The Texans could have brought VY (insert street FA here) in and maybe he would have provided a spark to get another win or two, maybe. I don't think not doing it was tanking.
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Is everything with you a conspiracy theory? Do you honestly think the owner has meetings with players telling them to tank, or is it some sort of Jedi Mind Trick?
First of all, never said anything about a conspiracy. Doesn't have to be a conspiracy. Owners and players are at odds on damn near everything in football. The players always play for a contract, but owners have to be concerned with the long term well being of their franchise. Sometimes that leads to goals that are at odds. McNair doesn't have to tell the players anything. The team sucks with or without Keenum, so a tweak here or there doesn't have to involve a meeting where he lays down how it's going to be. If he thinks Keenum gives him a better chance to lose, he can sell it a couple different ways.

Second, if you want to trade reds over something as tame as that remark, I'm good with that game.
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Yeah right. a) Colts did not tank b)unicorns exist. a) is as true as b)

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=cr#q=Colts+tanked


a link to a google search, well in that case carry on
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They are tanking and the players have quit.
I think the team just sucks, and as a result, the players seem to have quit giving it their best effort.

But I do not buy into it that the players and coaches are conspiring to tank a season in order to get a draft pick for a next season that many of them will not be in Houston.

I don't even think the FO is purposefully implementing decisions to tank. My previous post was just entertaining the notion that McNair is pushing Keenum because he's not going to win any games. But it was entertainment purposes only. Shitty teams do not need to work together to suck. They just do it naturally.

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As far as BoB's learning curve goes he' had over a decade to learn. If he hasn't learned by now he never will. What your saying is BoB took the short bus to school.
Well, that's certainly one way to perceive it. But, if I were to believe this, I would just quit watching the Texans based on my belief that they will never amount to anything under McNair's ownership.

And since I do not plan on quiting as a fan, I am choosing to take the other option that McNair has the potential to learn and improve as an owner.

Point is why bother if you do not think this franchise can ever win a championship?
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This is all I have to say about pro sports tanking:

Sampson + Olajuwan = NBA Draft Lottery
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Ugh. The team is bad and has given up.

Best just to get this season over with, get a new coach, and see what happens from there.
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Keenum's getting an MRI on his right thumb. Probably just a sprain.

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Old 12-16-2013   #1329
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Probably an excuse to get TJ Yates some playing time. What the hell else do you have to lose? I for one could live without the underthrown 15 yard outs and braindead sacks.
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Keenum's getting an MRI on his right thumb. Probably just a sprain.

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The last few weeks Keenum's play has looked like my golf game when I change swing coaches.
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They could have had their evaluation of Keenum 6 weeks ago, but decided to let him play it out because it was the most likely way to lose out for the no. 1 pick.
What's at the top of this draft worth tanking for? That's the only problem I have with that.

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It is not unrealistic to believe that they saw this season as a lost cause awhile back and started looking ahead to 2014.
How far back? After loss #8?

I was totally on board with the decision to bench Schaub after the San Francisco game. Instead he got hurt in St. Louis & it's been Case Keenum ever since.

I was sold on the fact that the Texans thought Keenum could be the answer. His first three games held up to that. However, the trend of second half futility had already started.


The loss to Jacksonville sealed it for me. 28th ranked defense & they stymied us. We scored 6 points & only because Case got benched. 28 yards of offense through 2.5 qtrs.

So yeah, I'm just thinking out loud. At that point, we had lost 9 in a row. We were 2-9.... season's over.
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First of all, never said anything about a conspiracy. Doesn't have to be a conspiracy. Owners and players are at odds on damn near everything in football. The players always play for a contract, but owners have to be concerned with the long term well being of their franchise. Sometimes that leads to goals that are at odds. McNair doesn't have to tell the players anything. The team sucks with or without Keenum, so a tweak here or there doesn't have to involve a meeting where he lays down how it's going to be. If he thinks Keenum gives him a better chance to lose, he can sell it a couple different ways.

Second, if you want to trade reds over something as tame as that remark, I'm good with that game.
Yea ok, do you have a pet unicorn like the other guy too? You started the red war with your rant about my Hitler analogy when everyone had a boner for Case Keenum. Ridiculous neg rep. http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...55#post2242455
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The last few weeks Keenum's play has looked like my golf game when I change swing coaches.
I'm pretty sure your golf swing could not be that bad.
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Yea ok, do you have a pet unicorn like the other guy too? You started the red war with your rant about my Hitler analogy when everyone had a boner for Case Keenum. Ridiculous neg rep. http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...55#post2242455


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The most commonly sprained ligament in the thumb is the ulnar collateral ligament.



If it is mildly strained (grade I), they may put a light splint or supportive bandage that blocks outer movement of the thumb. Gripping a football will reproduce stress on this ligament. It the tear is partial (grade II), he will be wearing a full splint or cast for 3 weeks with no movement, then begin strengthening exercises (still wearing the splint or cast for another 2-3 weeks when doing these exercises). If it is completely torn (grade III, below), with or without a fracture of the attached bone, he will require surgery, a period of 6-8 weeks in a full-time short arm cast or splint.......then rehab.




It will important for the proper diagnosis to be made and the appropriate treatment pursued early in order to avoid long-term instability of the thumb.
They should already have been able to diagnose a grade III simply by physical exam. Since they performed an MRI, they were most like trying to determine grade I vs. grade II. Less likely is that they would be tactically closed-mouth re. a known Grade III, and assessing for any additional injury to the thumb.
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The most commonly sprained ligament in the thumb is the ulnar collateral ligament.
Well that explains everything. He must have suffered it in the 2nd half of the Chiefs game & it continues to flare up in the second half of every subsequent game & whenever we play the mighty Jags.

Give him a complete offseason to get healthy, training camp throwing to the ones & we'll be back on top of the AFC South again.





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