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Old 10-20-2013   #61
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I am a big Case Keenum fan and I expect him to do at least really good things in the NFL .... eventually!!

What I see on this board is the Keenum fans are a little over the top with their appreciation for him and his detractors are basically saying ..."Okay Keenum fanboys, let's see him destroy the Chiefs Sunday or he is no good!" Both sides do not have realistic expectations.

It would be hard for ANY team with ANY NFL QB to go into KC this weekend and destroy them and that includes all the top teams and QB's. So, to put such expectations on CK with a mediocre 2-4 team and suspect coaching on him is unfair and unrealistic.

Some have stated their expectations of him to be 'mistake free'. Even the BEST QB's in the league are not 'mistake free' and add to that the pressure cooker of this game in KC. Another unrealistic expectation.

I believe our expectations should be that he competently operates the QB position and gains confidence as the game goes on. I expect him to make more than one mistake. An interception or 2 is highly possible. However, I also expect him to make some plays that we're not used to seeing from our QB's. I expect, as his comfort level grows, that he will improve in his pocket presence and ability to look down field and read the defense. I expect him to go outside Gary's box when plays break down and sometimes create something good from it instead of creating a turnover or loss. If he gets thru this pressure packed game as I've described against the undefeated Chiefs on their noisy home field with our mediocre team and mediocre coaching then the upside for him will be great moving forward.

Expecting him to 'lead' us to victory is unrealistic, but possible knowing him. However, the people who SHOULD be leading this team to victory this week are Arian Foster, Andre Johnson, Duane Brown, Chris Myers, JJ Watt, Antonio Smith, Brian Cushing, Ed Reed, Jonathon Joseph, Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips with Keenum being competent enough to operate the offense and not throw the game away.
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I am a big Case Keenum fan and I expect him to do at least really good things in the NFL .... eventually!!

What I see on this board is the Keenum fans are a little over the top with their appreciation for him and his detractors are basically saying ..."Okay Keenum fanboys, let's see him destroy the Chiefs Sunday or he is no good!" Both sides do not have realistic expectations.

It would be hard for ANY team with ANY NFL QB to go into KC this weekend and destroy them and that includes all the top teams and QB's. So, to put such expectations on CK with a mediocre 2-4 team and suspect coaching on him is unfair and unrealistic.

Some have stated their expectations of him to be 'mistake free'. Even the BEST QB's in the league are not 'mistake free' and add to that the pressure cooker of this game in KC. Another unrealistic expectation.

I believe our expectations should be that he competently operates the QB position and gains confidence as the game goes on. I expect him to make more than one mistake. An interception or 2 is highly possible. However, I also expect him to make some plays that we're not used to seeing from our QB's. I expect, as his comfort level grows, that he will improve in his pocket presence and ability to look down field and read the defense. I expect him to go outside Gary's box when plays break down and sometimes create something good from it instead of creating a turnover or loss. If he gets thru this pressure packed game as I've described against the undefeated Chiefs on their noisy home field with our mediocre team and mediocre coaching then the upside for him will be great moving forward.

Expecting him to 'lead' us to victory is unrealistic, but possible knowing him. However, the people who SHOULD be leading this team to victory this week are Arian Foster, Andre Johnson, Duane Brown, Chris Myers, JJ Watt, Antonio Smith, Brian Cushing, Ed Reed, Jonathon Joseph, Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips with Keenum being competent enough to operate the offense and not throw the game away.
Thanks for the well presented, well thought out and articulated as well.

Obviously you've got no business here! Ya gotta get in a "hate camp"! j/k

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You'll quickly realize there are 3 factions when it comes to Keenum:

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Homers and Haters fight while the don't care wish they would both shut up.
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Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

The only reason this game was as close as it was was because of Keenum.
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IDK what game you were watching but Keenum looked good to me. Showed me a hell of a lot more than any other QB on this roster.
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Cause hes not an answer
You sir, are a complete moron. What game did you watch?
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Default Re: new coach will cut case

No he wouldn't. He'd cut/trade Schaub and Yates and draft a QB early next season. Keenum showed some moxie today. He also showed his inexperience in an extremely hostile environment. Let's see how he does in two weeks, at home, against Indy.

Keenum's 1st game should've been last week, not this week.
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Default Re: new coach will cut case

He really struggled in the 4th quarter. A lot of those sacks are on him. He's got to get rid of the ball.

That said, 1st start in Arrowhead against that defense. He played pretty darn good. The offense completely fell apart in the 4th quarter and, while he was a part of that, the line did him no favors.
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Default Re: All Encompassing Case Keenum Thread

dude was smiling after the loss (several times). Hate that.

None of the greats (Brady, Manning, etc) ever smile after a loss as they are winners.

He played well enough, but its very obvious he doesn't have the arm strength or frame to be an NFL QB. The guy who is going to lead us to our first super bowl is not on the roster.
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Just GREAT! Keenum just played well enough, and bad enough, to keep the starting QB debate alive for 2 more weeks.
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Cause hes not an answer
You need a glass stomach because your head is clearly up your a$$. I wasn't a huge Keenum guy before this game. I'm sold now.
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Default Re: new coach will cut case

You're being WAY too dramatic lol. If he's "not the answer" like you say, he still wouldn't cut a QB who can make plays that's on a dirt cheap contract.

Although I just did exactly what you wanted when you made this thread, gave you a reaction.
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He really struggled in the 4th quarter. A lot of those sacks are on him. He's got to get rid of the ball.

That said, 1st start in Arrowhead against that defense. He played pretty darn good. The offense completely fell apart in the 4th quarter and, while he was a part of that, the line did him no favors.
How so?? He literally had 1-2 seconds before he was slammed into the ground. The O-Line just let the blitzers run right into him
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