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Default Gruden: Houston Destination?

At a time when ProFootballTalk reports Gruden says he’d like to give coaching “one more try,” Houston could reasonably find its way around the top of the list. The mention of the Cowboys would seem unlikely when you try to picture Jerry and Jon's personalities clashing (especially where it would come to being able to control the direction of the team).

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A social visit? A visit to simply attend the Pats/Texans game? An off-schedule tour of the strip clubs?.............or the beginnings of building blocks for a new Texans team?
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At a time when ProFootballTalk reports Gruden says he’d like to give coaching “one more try,” Houston could reasonably find its way around the top of the list. The mention of the Cowboys would seem unlikely when you try to picture Jerry and Jon's personalities clashing (especially where it would come to being able to control the direction of the team).

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A social visit? A visit to simply attend the Pats/Texans game? An off-schedule tour of the strip clubs?.............or the beginnings of building blocks for a new Texans team?
My guess is all 4.
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Was McNair's jet not available? "Consulting" with Gruden might be the first step.

All of the anti-Gruden sentiment on this board has me bewildered. He's won before and he's not the kind of coach who will come in with a 5 year, er 6 year plan. Gruden will want to win in 2014.

I would like to see who else is interested. But would I have a problem with Jon Gruden as the next head coach of the Houston Texans? No. He would be the best hire McNair has ever made and the type of leader this organization is dying for.
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He's probably here to check out the Patriots.
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Default Re: Gruden: Houston Destination?

*Gruden voice*

I like that guy. Thus hire would get me pumped up!
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Default Re: Gruden: Houston Destination?

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Was McNair's jet not available? "Consulting" with Gruden might be the first step.

All of the anti-Gruden sentiment on this board has me bewildered. He's won before and he's not the kind of coach who will come in with a 5 year, er 6 year plan. Gruden will want to win in 2014.

I would like to see who else is interested. But would I have a problem with Jon Gruden as the next head coach of the Houston Texans? No. He would be the best hire McNair has ever made and the type of leader this organization is dying for.
We would not have to sit through another coach learning to be a head coach. this team is more ready made for success in 2014 than the record indicates, but needs a more forceful personality than either Capers/Kubiak.

He has a WCO background so there probably won't be a radical terminology change, but probably issues of different usages. If my memory serves correctly, he did not make any rash changes to an already built defense in Tampa bay, so my guess is that he is not locked into a defensive system and will let the defense coordinator ya know coordinate.

He is only 50, so age is not an issue, and while he has been not been grinding out coaches hours in the filmroom, he certainly has not been away from the game for five years.

Hell, he was the last guy to figure out how to win games regularly with Al Davis meddling and the Glazers are pieces of work also. If anything McNair will be a welcome change for Gruden.
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An off-schedule tour of the strip clubs?
If this happens Houston will definitely be his number one choice. Texan Bill - show Chuckie the sights!
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Default Re: Gruden: Houston Destination?

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Was McNair's jet not available? "Consulting" with Gruden might be the first step.

All of the anti-Gruden sentiment on this board has me bewildered. He's won before and he's not the kind of coach who will come in with a 5 year, er 6 year plan. Gruden will want to win in 2014.

I would like to see who else is interested. But would I have a problem with Jon Gruden as the next head coach of the Houston Texans? No. He would be the best hire McNair has ever made and the type of leader this organization is dying for.
Yep ... Gruden or another less successful retread or a guy who has never been a head coach . Bob has to strike now while the iron is fairly hot .
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Would love to have gruden.

Lots of people knock him by saying he took dungy's team to a Super Bowl.

1) he got that team over the hump. That team had struggled to reach that next step and he got them there. That wasn't jimmy Johnson's cowboys that had already won and was simply on auto pilot.

2) he won the Super Bowl against his former team. So he either way you want to look at it, he got a team to the Super Bowl.

3) he had some down years in Tampa, but they also were transitioning from the days of all those stars they had to a team without much talent. Tampa hasn't really done anything since moving on from gruden. Maybe had they kept him around they would have been better off.
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Would love to have gruden.

Lots of people knock him by saying he took dungy's team to a Super Bowl.

1) he got that team over the hump. That team had struggled to reach that next step and he got them there. That wasn't jimmy Johnson's cowboys that had already won and was simply on auto pilot.

2) he won the Super Bowl against his former team. So he either way you want to look at it, he got a team to the Super Bowl.

3) he had some down years in Tampa, but they also were transitioning from the days of all those stars they had to a team without much talent. Tampa hasn't really done anything since moving on from gruden. Maybe had they kept him around they would have been better off.
Gruden is a QB guru ... hmmm .
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He's also a Johnny Manziel supporter...
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He's also a Johnny Manziel supporter...
So is here to see if he can win Schaub, Keenum or Manziel?
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All of the anti-Gruden sentiment on this board has me bewildered. He's won before and he's not the kind of coach who will come in with a 5 year, er 6 year plan. Gruden will want to win in 2014.
Checkout what many of Gruden's players had to say about him after he was fired. Your bewilderment will no longer be. You will understand why he was fired and hasn't been offered another NFL HC job since. Gruden after 6 years with Tampa was a .500 coach after being handed a Super Bowl team.
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For Pete's sake, not Gruden. Or Cowher.
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Checkout what many of Gruden's players had to say about him after he was fired. Your bewilderment will no longer be. You will understand why he was fired and hasn't been offered another NFL HC job since. Gruden after 6 years with Tampa was a .500 coach after being handed a Super Bowl team.
Bill Belichick and Alex Gibb's players aren't fond of them either . Vince Lombardi's players didn't think it was a cake walk .
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Checkout what many of Gruden's players had to say about him after he was fired. Your bewilderment will no longer be. You will understand why he was fired and hasn't been offered another NFL HC job since. Gruden after 6 years with Tampa was a .500 coach after being handed a Super Bowl team.
I'm not a Gruden supporter, but he either gets credit for getting TB to the Super Bowl, or credit for building the Raider team that TB faced in that Super Bowl.
You can't say he had nothing to do with getting TB to the top because it was built by someone else, then deny him credit for being the guy who built the Raiders.
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For Pete's sake, not Gruden. Or Cowher.
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Bill Belichick and Alex Gibb's players aren't fond of them either . Vince Lombardi's players didn't think it was a cake walk .
Did Belichick's, Gibb's and Lombardi's players accuse them of being dishonest? Liars? Look you in the eye and tell tell you one thing and then turn around and do something totally opposite of what the said or promised you?
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For Pete's sake, not Gruden. Or Cowher.
I don't really care for Gruden either, but Cowher would be at the top of my list. He coached a tough Steeler team that seemed to always be good defensively and he got them a couple Super Bowl wins. I doubt he would come out of retirement to coach Houston but I would jump at the chance.
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