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Old 12-30-2012   #41
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Why is he back there anyway? Isn't our safeties Manning and Quin?

Is Quin moving up to play corner when teams go spread?
I don't know, but its painfully obvious that opposing offenses know when this dude is on the field...ditto for brandon harris. They're hardly throwing at KJ and J Jo....harris is getting way too many match ups against a teams #1....its obvious they see a flaw in wade's scheme and they're game planning for it.....meanwhile Wade's doing nothing but blitzing and continously leaving these guys on islands.
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I dont really blame Kubiak for that at all ... The OL was pathetic. There were plays left all over the field as well.

On the play where Walter made a catch for a 1st down on 3rd and long , Schaub missed a wide open AJ , who would have walked into the endzone , and that was far from the only read he missed.

#80 dropped a TD ....
That's when I just figured we were done. Done...Done...Done.

Who else has that happen to them?? Reggie Wayne drops nothing when a TD is needed in the worst way. Aah, FML.
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I don't know, but its painfully obvious that opposing offenses know when this dude is on the field...ditto for brandon harris. They're hardly throwing at KJ and J Jo....harris is getting way too many match ups against a teams #1....its obvious they see a flaw in wade's scheme and they're game planning for it.....meanwhile Wade's doing nothing but blitzing and continously leaving these guys on islands.
And people will continue to blame Kubiak for this as Wade's defense has been shredded against some of the most average QBs.
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Default Re: Y'all like to blame Kubiak, but 3rd and 23!

As I saw it, the key play of the game was the Indy kickoff return for a TD.

The offense came out strong in the 2nd half and scored 10 points to take the lead. Frankly, gutsy play I didn't expect from them. After the TD, they were driving effectively before the INT. Then, the D gave up the long pass (bad play by Demps...like in last Indy game) and the O could get nothing going after that.

Hence, blame all the way around.
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The kickoff return was almost poetic with how our ST have played this year.
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Yeah when you look at the box score you can say that...
I can say that because that's what happened. One TD drive with one red zone turnover does not a playoff offense make.

The defense did not play well enough to overcome the ineptness of the offense. The special teams favored the Colts today rather than the Texans as in week 15. The offense has been consistent in their suckitude down the stretch.
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That ST return was huge for momentum.

When the Texans took the lead there was this hush over the building and it just felt like things were finally going right. Once that happened though....

I think it has been said over and over again. Marciano has to go. ST can't return anything, let go of a great returner because they can't block for him, and then constantly gives up TDs. They have been terrible quite simply.
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I can say that because that's what happened. One TD drive with one red zone turnover does not a playoff offense make.

The defense did not play well enough to overcome the ineptness of the offense. The special teams favored the Colts today rather than the Texans as in week 15. The offense has been consistent in their suckitude down the stretch.
At the same time letting the Colts control the ball for nearly an entire qtr cannot simply be ignored and pushed aside and put on the offense.
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I don't know, but its painfully obvious that opposing offenses know when this dude is on the field...ditto for brandon harris. They're hardly throwing at KJ and J Jo....harris is getting way too many match ups against a teams #1....its obvious they see a flaw in wade's scheme and they're game planning for it.....meanwhile Wade's doing nothing but blitzing and continously leaving these guys on islands.
We miss McCain. He was bad but bad is better than unplayable.
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Default Re: Y'all like to blame Kubiak, but 3rd and 23!

Right now at least, it seems to me that we are the only team in the NFL that is still playing the same game on both sides of the ball that we played against whoever in week 1. We do not change. We blitz. We pass blitz and we run blitz. We also run, run, and then predictably pass or run, depending on the 3rd down distance. It also really helps that our QB is a statue who cannot move and will not make a throw that is not previously burned into his memory through tedious repetition. There is no part of our team that improvises, not only in-game, but in-season, save one glaring exception: our STs like to just F $^!+ up sometimes. They will block a punt or a kick; they will get one blocked, they will fumble, recover, open up like the Red Sea; they are unpredictable. Something has to be...

Kubiak is the Anti-Improvisor, Schaub is the Dis-providor, and Marciano is the Impotent-isor.
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Watch out for all the negative stuff going on, understandable seeing how the Texans are playing NOTHING footlball, but anyhoo, welcome. I hope you enjoy it as I have.
thanks . . . don't worry, i've stalked this board off and on for awhile and am well aware of the negativity, but hey they gotta let off steam somewhere i guess . . . lol
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Default Re: Y'all like to blame Kubiak, but 3rd and 23!

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That was a bad moment to be sure, but a couple things:

1.) The game was lost before that, abd everyone knew it. Hell, the defense and Wade Phillips probably knew they weren't going to get enough help.

2.) We've all watched Kubiak turtle up in that exact situation for so long that when the Colts made a play, the first person I was pissed at, just instinctively, was Kubiak. That play was not his fault, at all. I think it's just that he's built a reputation that enough of us don't like that when we see something like that, it pisses us off at the wrong person.

But your point is well taken.
Number 2 all the way. After watching screen or draw plays by the Texans, so much it became predictable by the fans, seeing the Colts with less on the line than the Texans make a TD strike on the same play is just too much. It speaks to Kubiak's aversion to risk almost to the detriment of the team.
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Wade Phillips..........COME ON, MAN!
lol how many fgs does it take to win on the road. dude phillips is fine. your HC and qb sucks. you gotta score points to win bro.
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Bad stuff going on in that play, top to bottom.

Fact remains Koobs has infinitely more to answer for than just 3rd and 23.
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Its easy to blame this on Kubiak and i still do put a lot of the blame on him but the whole team in general is just in a total meltdown. Every facet of the game you can talk crap about. We gave up a special teams TD, We gave up the 3rd and long TD on D, and our offense has 1 TD in 10 Quarters. Oh and BTW we will probably have to play next week too now.

Meltdown.
Who is responsible for the whole team in general? Who is responsible for Marciano still coaching our joke of a ST unit? The players aren't executing any longer in any facet and are melting down. Kubiak has to do something about all of this as the HC. I'm sure he's been trying to figure it out, but so far the team is flailing at the worse time of the season. If it helps people sleep at night screw Dennison and Phillips, too, but Kubiak is in charge.
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Bad stuff going on in that play, top to bottom.

Fact remains Koobs has infinitely more to answer for than just 3rd and 23.
And so does Wade.

I'm tired of Wade just getting a pass quite frankly. Chad Henne tore his defense up and since then every QB has done the same.
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Number 2 all the way. After watching screen or draw plays by the Texans, so much it became predictable by the fans, seeing the Colts with less on the line than the Texans make a TD strike on the same play is just too much. It speaks to Kubiak's aversion to risk almost to the detriment of the team.
Maybe his aversion to risk is the realization that Schaub cant get it done ?!
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AN entire O line plays horribly and that has nothing to do with Kubiak?? What the hell do you think he does Corrosion?? You've acknowledged that Schaub is playing poorly right now as well. You've acknowledged that the running game isn't clicking well either? At what point do you address the offensive coaching??

Sorry, but that's an entire offensive problem which goes back to coaching.
Was it Kubiak that let go of the the right side of the Oline? Kubiak was stuck with young and inexperienced players on the right side of the line who...looking at who we have over there are playing better than what could be expected of them.
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The D played well enough to win this game. The 3rd and 23 play was 5 WRs streaking in a straight line for the endzone and Luck throws a perfect pass just barely out of J. Jo.'s reach. The only safety not one-on-one with somebody was covering deep over the 3 WRs on the other side. They also got 7 points on Marciano's crap-fest of a special teams. God, where would our special teams be this year without Brahman?

1. Right side O-line SUCKS in run and pass.

2. Schaub SUCKED again.

3. Special teams, Luck, predictable offensive play-calling, AJ drops a TD, refs
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That ST return was huge for momentum.

When the Texans took the lead there was this hush over the building and it just felt like things were finally going right. Once that happened though....

I think it has been said over and over again. Marciano has to go. ST can't return anything, let go of a great returner because they can't block for him, and then constantly gives up TDs. They have been terrible quite simply.
Why couldn't Coach Joe be fired midseason? Is that against Texans rules or something? It's not like special teams was getting any better.
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