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Old 12-30-2012   #21
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That was all Demps again, good thing we released Troy Nolan to play that scrub.
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Default Re: Y'all like to blame Kubiak, but 3rd and 23!

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It's Kubes fault because the defense was like. "Offense isn't going to score any ways!"
They we right. The offense never scored again.

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At this point i wouldn't be surprised if the offense showed up in the playoffs and wade's defense spit the bit...
I'm going for door #3. The offense doesn't show up and the defense spits the bit.
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was it as far?
As far as the pass being in the air, schaub's was longer...but total play mo...hilton had YAC thst he tacked on to make the play longer than ours.
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Default Re: Y'all like to blame Kubiak, but 3rd and 23!

Its easy to blame this on Kubiak and i still do put a lot of the blame on him but the whole team in general is just in a total meltdown. Every facet of the game you can talk crap about. We gave up a special teams TD, We gave up the 3rd and long TD on D, and our offense has 1 TD in 10 Quarters. Oh and BTW we will probably have to play next week too now.

Meltdown.
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That was all Demps again, good thing we released Troy Nolan to play that scrub.
Ialways preferd Nolan over Demps. He was always a good coverage safety and had a nose for the ball as well, sure demps jumps a few routes every now and then and looks down at his hands saying "why didnt you catch the ball", but other than that i would take nolans skill set over demps any day of the week.
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I have no doubt that some games are handled. against NE, the refs only harmed us, same thing today.Os teams of "media" always get what they want
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Default Re: Y'all like to blame Kubiak, but 3rd and 23!

We were NEVER going to be the same on Defense after Cushing went down, but we still make enough plays on that side of the ball to survive. From that point on it was on the offense, and they are right now worse on offense than at any time I can remember under Kubiak.
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They we right. The offense never scored again.
Offense drives down the field. Schaub throws a INT. Offense doesn't get the ball again.
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U just cant be that undisciplined when you're the only safety back there... And demps has done that twice in the last 3 weeks to the same team....u think brady and manning and flacco dalton wont see that on film? We're screwed.
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U just cant be that undisciplined when you're the only safety back there... And demps has done that twice in the last 3 weeks to the same team....u think brady and manning and flacco dalton wont see that on film? We're screwed.
Why is he back there anyway? Isn't our safeties Manning and Quin?

Is Quin moving up to play corner when teams go spread?
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Offense drives down the field. Schaub throws a INT. Offense doesn't get the ball again.
You're giving props for the offense turning the ball over? What if they did get the ball back? Schaub has led the offense to 3 TD drives in 4 games. How are the Texans going to beat anyone with that type of performance?
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Default Re: Y'all like to blame Kubiak, but 3rd and 23!

I know one thing: that pass on 3rd and 23 was a pass that Schwaubie cannot make and a gutsy offensive play-call that Kubiak will not make.
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Default Re: Y'all like to blame Kubiak, but 3rd and 23!

Kubiak dropped a TD pass and threw two INT's .... and somehow gave the Dolts the ball back on a sack fumble (at best a fumbled lateral). No no , we dont want it , you keep it ....
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You're giving props for the offense turning the ball over? What if they did get the ball back? Schaub has led the offense to 3 TD drives in 4 games. How are the Texans going to beat anyone with that type of performance?
I didn't give props at all to anyone.

But people are trying to make Kubiak shoulder all of the blame and the Schaub INT had nothing to do with Kubiak. Offense actually played much better in the 2nd half and woke up. It was the special teams and defense that let the team down in the 2nd half.
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the downside of playing a one gap system with almost exclusively man coverage. Works pretty well when you have a good edge rush and big time linebackers. At the moment we have no edge-rush and linebackers that struggle in man coverage.
new here, but i think this is the key to the def's problems . . . agree with most that play calling is killing us on off . . .
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But people are trying to make Kubiak shoulder all of the blame and the Schaub INT had nothing to do with Kubiak. Offense actually played much better in the 2nd half and woke up. It was the special teams and defense that let the team down in the 2nd half.
10 points in a half and the offense has awakened? How low have expectations fallen?
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new here, but i think this is the key to the def's problems . . . agree with most that play calling is killing us on off . . .
Welcome to the board!

Watch out for all the negative stuff going on, understandable seeing how the Texans are playing NOTHING footlball, but anyhoo, welcome. I hope you enjoy it as I have.
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10 points in a half and the offense has awakened? How low have expectations fallen?
I dont really blame Kubiak for that at all ... The OL was pathetic. There were plays left all over the field as well.

On the play where Walter made a catch for a 1st down on 3rd and long , Schaub missed a wide open AJ , who would have walked into the endzone , and that was far from the only read he missed.


#80 dropped a TD ....
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10 points in a half and the offense has awakened? How low have expectations fallen?
Yeah when you look at the box score you can say that but lets remember the Colts ran about 8 mins off the clock in the 4th qtr and abused the defense to close the game out. Lets not even mention the 3rd and 23 inexcusable play that should never happened to a well coached and disciplined defensive unit.
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I dont really blame Kubiak for that at all ... The OL was pathetic. There were plays left all over the field as well.

On the play where Walter made a catch for a 1st down on 3rd and long , Schaub missed a wide open AJ , who would have walked into the endzone , and that was far from the only read he missed.


#80 dropped a TD ....
AN entire O line plays horribly and that has nothing to do with Kubiak?? What the hell do you think he does Corrosion?? You've acknowledged that Schaub is playing poorly right now as well. You've acknowledged that the running game isn't clicking well either? At what point do you address the offensive coaching??

Sorry, but that's an entire offensive problem which goes back to coaching.
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