Who's better Schaub or A Smith?

[mussop]

Let the games begin.

The case for Smith -

Smith led the 49ers to within a couple of plays from the Super Bowl. Smith threw only five interceptions all season (none in the playoffs) and finished in the top 10 in QB rating 2011.

This season Smith he was third in QB rating, behind Manning and Aaron Rodgers before he got injured and replaced. In his last full game he was 18-of-19 with three TDs setting an NFL record with a 94.7 completion percentage for a quarterback with a minimum of 15 attempts. He was named NFC Offensive Player of the Week for the first time two days later.. Before he was knocked out of the game against St. Louis, he was 7-of-8 with a TD and a passer rating of 143.8. Three of his five interceptions this season came in one game -- against the New York Giants, the defending Super Bowl champs. In fact he is 20-6-1 in the games he's started for Harbaugh.

Here's something interesting for all you STAT lovers. Smith owns a passer rating of 104.1, less than a point behind Aaron Rodgers (104.7) and Robert Griffin III (104.2).

The problem is He's ineligible for the passing rating crown and needs another seven attempts to climb back into the race. Smith also can improve upon his 70 percent completion rate and break Drew Brees' record (71.2) from a season ago if he completes nine of nine passes in the next game.

Not bad for a guy most around here say doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Schaub.

[Texecutioner]

This isn't even a legit question.


And if you don't know the answer to it, then you probably shouldn't even be discussing QB's.

I have no idea when Alex Smith became this pro bowler to some people in here, but he's always been a bottom feeder in this league. They shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath.

Might as well ask who is better out of Andre Johnson or Kenny Britt?

[Mr teX]

Why limit to just when he played under harbaugh? Lets talk about What his record was before then? Before last year he never had a qb rating over 90...he's never thrown for more than 20 td's in his career.....and if you've watched him play enough, he's a deer in the headlights more often than not...it says enough about him that harbaugh looked into bringing manning in and then turned around and put him on the bench after he was having such a good game.

Its not just stats dude.

[Joeycharp89]

I like Smith and I think it sucks that he got benched. He's not as clutch as say an Aaron Rodgers of Peyton Manning, but he's a little more clutch than Schaub.

[IlliniJen]

If you don't think Schaub's right for this team, that's understandable. But Alex Smith sure ain't any better for this team. Not an upgrade.

[Kaiser Toro]

The all encompassing Schaub thread is nigh

[Texecutioner]

Originally Posted by Joeycharp89

I like Smith and I think it sucks that he got benched. He's not as clutch as say an Aaron Rodgers of Peyton Manning, but he's a little more clutch than Schaub.

Smith and clutch aren't even in the same sentence. He got benched because his own HC didn't have any faith in him even over a rookie. Smith has been benched like 4 times in his career by several coaches. Smith has never had one coach in his whole career that ever believed in him, so how in the hell do you even mention his name and clutch in the same sentence?? What because he had one great game against the Saints? No surprise that his HC tried to get Manning in the off season. Even after resigning Smith, he still benched him. Smith isn't even eligible to be more clutch then Schaub or any other perennial starter, because he's never even been a consistent starter or part of a good offense in his entire career.

[ThaShark316]

Alex Smith ain't no MFin clutch.

Because the Saints left Vernon Davis wide open in the playoffs don't make you clutch.

[GP]

They're the same guy, just one is a bit better than the other.

Schaub beats him out by a few notches. But not much.

The guy is average, and he has to have the perfect environment for success...just like his head coach. Two peas in a turtle pod.

Hey, we're better than the Jets and a lot of other teams, though. Though it appears we're getting worse as we go along. At this rate, unless the HC and his QB figure some things out...we're going to be 1 and done in the playoffs whether we have HFA or not.

[Texecutioner]

Originally Posted by GP

They're the same guy, just one is a bit better than the other.

Schaub beats him out by a few notches. But not much.

The guy is average, and he has to have the perfect environment for success...just like his head coach. Two peas in a turtle pod.

Hey, we're better than the Jets and a lot of other teams, though. Though it appears we're getting worse as we go along. At this rate, unless the HC and his QB figure some things out...we're going to be 1 and done in the playoffs whether we have HFA or not.

The Texans passing game wasn't any good when our running game stunk a few years ago? Did you forget that Schaub led the league in passing yards?? What about the defense being the worst in the league where we constantly had to pass and other teams knew it?? That is not having a perfect environment at all. That is having a lot of things against you is what that is and Schaub did pretty well considering those circumstances.

Alex Smith has never been a good QB in his entire career. They aren't even close.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

Why limit to just when he played under harbaugh? Lets talk about What his record was before then? Before last year he never had a qb rating over 90...he's never thrown for more than 20 td's in his career.....and if you've watched him play enough, he's a deer in the headlights more often than not...it says enough about him that harbaugh looked into bringing manning in and then turned around and put him on the bench after he was having such a good game.

Its not just stats dude.

Where to start. hhmmm.. The last two years should be more than enough to show where he is at in his career and what he is capable of. The deer in the headlights comment is more fitting for Schaub in the Minnesota game than Smith's career. And finally Harbaugh did not bench Smith after he was having a good game. Smith was replaced when he left the game with a head injury.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Smith and clutch aren't even in the same sentence. He got benched because his own HC didn't have any faith in him even over a rookie. Smith has been benched like 4 times in his career by several coaches. Smith has never had one coach in his whole career that ever believed in him, so how in the hell do you even mention his name and clutch in the same sentence?? What because he had one great game against the Saints? No surprise that his HC tried to get Manning in the off season. Even after resigning Smith, he still benched him. Smith isn't even eligible to be more clutch then Schaub or any other perennial starter, because he's never even been a consistent starter or part of a good offense in his entire career.

And Scaub is? And never been a consistent starter? 20-6-1 Doesn't show consistency?

[thunderkyss]

Harbaugh, a QB... a QB guy... A QB guru handicapped Alex Smith. The guy he knew. The guy he worked with. The guy he made into a top level QB. Knowing he has an excellent opportunity to get to & win a Superbowl benched Alex Smith.

Kubiak, a QB... a QB guy.. A QB guru has faith in Matt Schaub. If Kubiak has handicapped Schaub in anyway, it is not to the extent that Smith has been. With an excellent opportunity to get to & win a Superbowl Kubiak couldn't wait to get Matt back.

Who's better? Who cares. One isn't trusted with the full playbook. The other is & has numbers thAt rivals the elite QBs

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by mussop

Where to start. hhmmm.. The last two years should be more than enough to show where he is at in his career and what he is capable of. The deer in the headlights comment is more fitting for Schaub in the Minnesota game than Smith's career. And finally Harbaugh did not bench Smith after he was having a good game. Smith was replaced when he left the game with a head injury.

Doesn't matter. Harbaugh decided to go with a guy he knew will make mistakes, possibly cost them a play-off berth. That's a benching if I ever saw one. The guy has little faith I. Smith.

[mussop]

It's funny how all Schaubs supporters want to throw out STATS as evidence of how good he is yet when you show another well criticized QB and their good STATS suddenly STATS become meaningless. Schaub was at one point better than Smith. He isn't anymore. Every since his injury I would say without hesitation that Smith is at worst equal to Schaub.

[Surreal McCoy]

Smith had one decent season in a largely forgettable career. There's no comparison as to who's better, well, not one that's within reason.

[RagingBull]

I gotta go with Antonio Smith.

[Marcus]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

This isn't even a legit question.

And if you don't know the answer to it, then you probably shouldn't even be discussing QB's.

I have no idea when Alex Smith became this pro bowler to some people in here, but he's always been a bottom feeder in this league. They shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath.

Might as well ask who is better out of Andre Johnson or Kenny Britt?

I agree with this. The trend is moving to more of a mobility threatening type of QB and Schaub and Smith are neither of those. Harbaugh benching Smith in favor of Kaepernick, and the results from that move . . . well, it's a copy-cat league . . . and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Smith/Kubiak see the writing on the wall . . . and go for that type of quarterback, especially if the season goes up in flames.

[Goatcheese]

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by mussop

Where to start. hhmmm.. The last two years should be more than enough to show where he is at in his career and what he is capable of. The deer in the headlights comment is more fitting for Schaub in the Minnesota game than Smith's career. And finally Harbaugh did not bench Smith after he was having a good game. Smith was replaced when he left the game with a head injury.

Lol, You try to downplay stats yet the only reasonable thing you can use to even attempt to put him on schaub's level is a stat....and its not even a stat that he can fully adopt as his own...its a team stat..

you are beyond reasoning and any kind of sound logic.....good day sir