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TexCanada · 12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Rey

Schaub is going to crumble under pressure more often than not.

Wouldn't it be fair to let him play a playoff game before we decide that?

Hervoyel · 12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Now you have finally given some examples of who you think we could go after, unfortunately you name guys like Alex Smith and Colt McCoy which makes it ridiculous to replace Schaub or even think of it with guys like that. I thought you were interested in an upgrade, but your ideas are exactly what I was afraid of which would put us right in the rat race of chasing QB's like the Bills and Dolphins of the NFL. Apparently you have forgotten what it's like to have David Carr starting here. When you have no QB at all, your team pretty much has no chance. We've got a very good chance with Schaub if the rest of the team could be on point like they are supposed to.

But Alex Smith, Flynn, and McCoy??

Worth a look. That's all I said. You're starting to embarrass yourself now with this selective reading bull****. Matt is paying for your loft isn't he. Well, hopefully he gets to stick around and buy baby nice things.

Rey · 12-23-2012

Alex smith would be an upgrade in this offense. He'd make more mistakes than schaub, but hed also make more plays.

Rey · 12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by TexCanada

Wouldn't it be fair to let him play a playoff game before we decide that?

You can do what you want. I'm here stating my opinion like everyone else.

Hervoyel · 12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by TexCanada

Wouldn't it be fair to let him play a playoff game before we decide that?

Sure. Absolutely. I can't wait to see him in a playoff game. No one in the world would be more thrilled to be wrong than I. Matt comes in, leads the Texans on an ungodly post-season tear into the Super Bowl and I'm gonna be all "EATING MY CROW WHILE I CELEBRATE!"

I'm just not real worried that this is going to happen. Name one big ol' important game that Matt's ever played great in where there wasn't some mitigating circumstance like "Ray Lewis is out" or "New England doesn't need this game so they're not trying".

No can do. Matt only dominates crappy defenses and injured/disinterested opponents. He isn't likely to find any of those in the playoffs.

Premier · 12-23-2012

dont be dense.. these are examples of guys that could run kubiaks offense just as effective as schaub. Do you guys believe that schaub, in alex smiths position would run the 9ers with the same efficiency as he does in the texans qb friendly offense... moving forward, the obvious choice is to draft his successor within the next 2 years, using a high draft pick and jumping at guys who slip in the 1st, early 2nd.. let your young guy learn while schaubs contract finishes out. and after schaub has racked up 3 lombardi trophies and super bowl mvps we will have a guy ready to take over when schaub is 34ish..

**hradhak** · 12-23-2012

The entire offense was terrible. Schaub is not going thru progressions, o line isnt making holes, foster is going down on one hit.

Not sure why the sudden crater but we need to turn it around now or e are one and done

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Mr teX · 12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Rey

Schaub is going to crumble under pressure more often than not.

Lol, name a qb outside of manning, brady, rodgers and probably rothlisberger that this isn't true for. Thats 4 of 32...its also no coincidence that these guys are the elite of the elite....

**Vinny** · 12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Mr teX

Lol, name a qb outside of manning, brady, rodgers and probably rothlisberger that this isn't true for. Thats 4 of 32...its also no coincidence that these guys are the elite of the elite....

Schaub = Gifford Neilson (not that there is anything wrong with that)

Bigbots_02 · 12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by TexCanada

Wouldn't it be fair to let him play a playoff game before we decide that?

Absolutely, Id have no objection to that at all. Im only saying as I stated at the very 1st post. We need to start NOW and look for our future. We have time on Schaubs contract and its going to take a while to find is replacement... But Iv THINK ive sen schaub as good as hes going to get. But yes, he deserves a playoff round with us no doubt about it.

leebigeztx · 12-23-2012

Its what I always say about non playmakers like schaub. The team either needs to add playmakers or the qb needs to be one or both. Offensively, they have 2 ,aj and foster. That's not good enough when teams take the run game away. When the defense is playing great, the unit can be called a playmaker. So in essence, schaub needs 2 of the 3 to play at a pro bowl level to successful. Against good teams, that's a lot to ask. If the texans are gonna stay on the schaub train, they need a talent at wr to the level of aj, a line that's on last yrs level, and a defense as good as last yrs. If that doesn't hapen, might as well hang banners in lucas oil stadium.

Hervoyel · 12-23-2012

I put this in the wrong place and it should be here. This is where I want it.

Hours later and I'm still so pissed off I can't even believe it. I've never been so angry that I was actually short of breath. ****ing Texans I can't believe this ****! When they lose it's like they come out intent on seeing how loud they can make the fans boo them and you know they're getting ready to do this from the first series. The minute that drive stalled and the offense came off the field so Graham could kick the FG I could tell by the look on Schaub's half-stoned idiot face that it was going to be one of those days. You can see it in his eyes when he's not on. He looks lost or like he's trying to work some kind of problem out in his head that has nothing to do with the game he's playing. Like he's counting rivets in the Reliant roof between plays or something.

I admit it. I am so sick of that mother****er and watching him play in slow motion. It's like watching old people **** for crying out loud. Everything is slow, deliberate, and careful. The guy couldn't make a play out of nothing to save his life. Just a robot piling up stats out there and some of you actually find that adequate. How did the end of that "Christmas Vacation" rant from Clark Griswold go? "Hallelujah! Holy ****! Where's the Tylenol?

That's how I feel right now.
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thunderkyss · 12-23-2012

<-- coach of the year right there guys.

Our QB sucks, our OL sucks, Only have Andre in the passing game, Foster sucks, the Defense sucks (other than Jj Watt) but we're 11-3

I'm not saying we shouldn't criticize our team, they deserve it today. But really, if they are this bad. If Schaub is this bad (Alex Smith, Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow)... Kubiak must be one heck of a game manager that we are 11-3 despite such a bad team.

mariowillshine15 · 12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

LOL, is Schaub a third year player or something? How is he the future? Schaub is just the very present/near-term. No way in hell is that guy the future of this team. The future QB of this team is probably not even on the roster.

The future as in the next 3-4 years. That's what i meant.

GuerillaBlack · 12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by mariowillshine15

The future as in the next 3-4 years. That's what i meant.

Well, tbh, he shouldn't even be here that long.

**playa465** · 12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Vinny

Schaub = Gifford Neilson (not that there is anything wrong with that)

Throwback from wayback

powda · 12-23-2012

What rounds were russel wilson, kirk cusins, and colin kapernek drafted in? I dont believe any of them were first rounders. I dunno why finding new talent seems so impossible to some...especially when we have the luxry of letting him sit for a year or 2.

I agree completely with the concept that schaub gets only what is schemed offensively and nothing else. It would be nice to see an actual foot athlete with just an average arm instead of what we've become accustomed to. I think herv said it best describing schaub...he's in slow motion...perpetual molasses while everyone else is moving like they just did a line of coke.

Brandon420tx · 12-23-2012

My only only complaint about Shaub is that he is completely useless if a defense can force him out of the pocket. As soon as he leaves or tries to leave the pocket due to pressure I already know that play is going for zero or worse yardage. Other QB's can get out of bounds for a few yards, make throw on the run at least some of the time, or completely reset and scan. Matt doesn't/can't. It's almost always a throw where even the intended receiver would have a really hard time catching it, a toss out of bounds or a sack.

TheIronDuke · 12-23-2012

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Originally Posted by fiddler

<-- coach of the year right there guys.

Our qb sucks, our ol sucks, only have andre in the passing game, foster sucks, the defense sucks (other than jj watt) but we're 11-3

i'm not saying we shouldn't criticize our team, they deserve it today. But really, if they are this bad. If schaub is this bad (alex smith, colt mccoy, tim tebow)... Kubiak must be one heck of a game manager that we are 11-3 despite such a bad team.

12-3

Norg · 12-23-2012

Its not time but trust me all our answers will be answerd in about a month when we go to the playoffs and hopefullly have the biggest game in our History the AFC champ game

12-23-2012	#106
Premier All Pro Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 789 Rep Power: 7531	Re: I thinks its time... dont be dense.. these are examples of guys that could run kubiaks offense just as effective as schaub. Do you guys believe that schaub, in alex smiths position would run the 9ers with the same efficiency as he does in the texans qb friendly offense... moving forward, the obvious choice is to draft his successor within the next 2 years, using a high draft pick and jumping at guys who slip in the 1st, early 2nd.. let your young guy learn while schaubs contract finishes out. and after schaub has racked up 3 lombardi trophies and super bowl mvps we will have a guy ready to take over when schaub is 34ish.. __________________

12-23-2012	#111
leebigeztx All Pro Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: League City formerly of LaMarque Age: 42 Posts: 864 Rep Power: 3264	Re: I thinks its time... Its what I always say about non playmakers like schaub. The team either needs to add playmakers or the qb needs to be one or both. Offensively, they have 2 ,aj and foster. That's not good enough when teams take the run game away. When the defense is playing great, the unit can be called a playmaker. So in essence, schaub needs 2 of the 3 to play at a pro bowl level to successful. Against good teams, that's a lot to ask. If the texans are gonna stay on the schaub train, they need a talent at wr to the level of aj, a line that's on last yrs level, and a defense as good as last yrs. If that doesn't hapen, might as well hang banners in lucas oil stadium. __________________ Be a student of the game, not a fan.

12-23-2012	#112
Hervoyel The Right Track Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 12,878 Rep Power: 58407	Re: I thinks its time... I put this in the wrong place and it should be here. This is where I want it. Hours later and I'm still so pissed off I can't even believe it. I've never been so angry that I was actually short of breath. **ing Texans I can't believe this ! When they lose it's like they come out intent on seeing how loud they can make the fans boo them and you know they're getting ready to do this from the first series. The minute that drive stalled and the offense came off the field so Graham could kick the FG I could tell by the look on Schaub's half-stoned idiot face that it was going to be one of those days. You can see it in his eyes when he's not on. He looks lost or like he's trying to work some kind of problem out in his head that has nothing to do with the game he's playing. Like he's counting rivets in the Reliant roof between plays or something. I admit it. I am so sick of that motherer and watching him play in slow motion. It's like watching old people for crying out loud. Everything is slow, deliberate, and careful. The guy couldn't make a play out of nothing to save his life. Just a robot piling up stats out there and some of you actually find that adequate. How did the end of that "Christmas Vacation" rant from Clark Griswold go? "Hallelujah! Holy *! Where's the Tylenol? That's how I feel right now. __________________ __________________ A wise man once said "...well at this point it's all been hashed out and you either see it or don't. Hoping for a win next week" - HTown2ATX*

12-23-2012	#113
thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 25,748 Rep Power: 51540	Re: I thinks its time... <-- coach of the year right there guys. Our QB sucks, our OL sucks, Only have Andre in the passing game, Foster sucks, the Defense sucks (other than Jj Watt) but we're 11-3 I'm not saying we shouldn't criticize our team, they deserve it today. But really, if they are this bad. If Schaub is this bad (Alex Smith, Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow)... Kubiak must be one heck of a game manager that we are 11-3 despite such a bad team. __________________ I swear it's for real this time!

12-23-2012	#117
powda Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 24382	Re: I thinks its time... What rounds were russel wilson, kirk cusins, and colin kapernek drafted in? I dont believe any of them were first rounders. I dunno why finding new talent seems so impossible to some...especially when we have the luxry of letting him sit for a year or 2. I agree completely with the concept that schaub gets only what is schemed offensively and nothing else. It would be nice to see an actual foot athlete with just an average arm instead of what we've become accustomed to. I think herv said it best describing schaub...he's in slow motion...perpetual molasses while everyone else is moving like they just did a line of coke.

12-23-2012	#103
Rey Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,727 Rep Power: 47019	Alex smith would be an upgrade in this offense. He'd make more mistakes than schaub, but hed also make more plays.

12-23-2012	#107
hradhak Site Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,279 Rep Power: 1733	The entire offense was terrible. Schaub is not going thru progressions, o line isnt making holes, foster is going down on one hit. Not sure why the sudden crater but we need to turn it around now or e are one and done Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2

12-23-2012	#118
Brandon420tx Flounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 25 Posts: 3,871 Rep Power: 4417	Re: I thinks its time... My only only complaint about Shaub is that he is completely useless if a defense can force him out of the pocket. As soon as he leaves or tries to leave the pocket due to pressure I already know that play is going for zero or worse yardage. Other QB's can get out of bounds for a few yards, make throw on the run at least some of the time, or completely reset and scan. Matt doesn't/can't. It's almost always a throw where even the intended receiver would have a really hard time catching it, a toss out of bounds or a sack. __________________ That Dolphin is the bravest thing I ever saw

12-23-2012	#120
Norg Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,890 Rep Power: 2454	Re: I thinks its time... Its not time but trust me all our answers will be answerd in about a month when we go to the playoffs and hopefullly have the biggest game in our History the AFC champ game

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