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Old 12-23-2012   #21
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Basically...jones had an absolutely awful game today and jared allen gave duane brown the business today...the dude had 2 holding calls called on him today...dont think thats ever happened...yet all people have to comment on is schaub's play today.

What about foster's fumble in viking territory and his awful play in general

What about the o-line getting snuffed on the 1 yd line

What about the dropped passes from daniels

Have some perspective people
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There is no trade package the Texans could have offered to trump the Redskins. You are patting yourself on the back for thinking of some complete bullsh!t.
Redskins gave up the No. 6 overall pick in 2012, their second-round pick in 2012, and their first-round picks in 2013 and 2014.

You dont think we could of trumped that? Get a clue!
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alex smith with a worse head coach, receiving core, o-line, and defense than sf....right
Alex Smith is a complete failure in this league. He had one redeeming season where he played more like a game manager that didn't **** things up for the defense to hold teams to low scores. That is all Alex Smith has ever done.

To state that Alex Smith is better then Schaub shows a complete knee jerk reaction to a bad game and a total lack of observation on NFL QB's to even attempt to suggest that.
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the whole offense sucked, not just Schaub...

This is what happens when you think you can get rid of your entire right side of the offensive line and plug in players with 0 NFL experience...


I place this clearly on Kubiak and Smith...
It didn't help when Butler went down. But I agree that Kubiak seems to be doing less with more than what I'm seeing from other teams around the league.
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alex smith with a worse head coach, receiving core, o-line, and defense than sf....right
Is this a question, a statement or are you drunk?
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this offense would be sssssssssssssssmokin with dink-n-dunk alex smith's 17 TD career high
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Alex Smith is a complete failure in this league. He had one redeeming season where he played more like a game manager that didn't **** things up for the defense to hold teams to low scores. That is all Alex Smith has ever done.

To state that Alex Smith is better then Schaub shows a complete knee jerk reaction to a bad game and a total lack of observation on NFL QB's to even attempt to suggest that.
I didn't say he was better. I said they are basically the same. They are! You just have to high of an opinion of Schaub because of his over inflated stats. You are in love with stats. So much so that you lack the ability to observe what he is really capable of. Or I should say, isn't capable of.
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Ive been as patient as anyone but I think I might have seen enough. I think we might need to start looking for a NO JOKE QB. Sure we have other problems like our offensive line looks like swiss cheese but even so, Matt Schaub not perfectly protected these days seem almost useless.

Im not saying Schaub isnt servicable but I want a QB the can go out and get it, not do just enought to not lose it... what are you guys thoughts.
Not just QB bro, look at whos calling all these bone headed draws and screens or runs. Look at the boys, Hell they arent giving up like Kubiak. Just sad
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Frankly, we should have acquired Chad Henne. He's much better than Matt Schaub. Just look at him driving! Matt Schaub has never done that!
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This is what happens when you think you can get rid of your entire right side of the offensive line and plug in players with 0 NFL experience...


I place this clearly on Kubiak and Smith...
This is an o-line problem. Couldn't keep everyone though. Who would you of gotten rid of? I was blasted when I mention Foster's money would of been better spent on keeping the o-line intact. Kubiak has to figure out how to move the ball with what we got. They were doing it earlier in the year lets see what he has in store next week and into the playoff's. We could always do what some are suggesting and get rid of Kubiak and Schaub this week and start rebuilding now.
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Answer my question. Where do we find one better? Give me a realistic answer. If you can't this complaining about a guy that is pretty good is pointless until you can find someone who is better.
I would think with the type od play action system we run and the throws we make... Colt McCoy would probably suffice. accurate, hard worker, Not a real strong arm (neither does Schaub) but good enough, VERY MOBILE. Once again, not saying Schaub is ok but we BASICALLY have a Slug version of Colt McCoy. Id take him.
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The problem with your logic is you think to highly of Schaub. You look at his inflated stats and think he is better than he really is. Ii would take Alex Smith over Schaub. They are basically the same except Smith is more mobile which would make a huge difference in this offense.

Lol at this hindsight ass logic. No way you're seriously advocating this & patting yourself on the back without taking to account what rg3 has done up to this point. It'd be patently stupid for us to give up our future and other potentially great young players already on the team to move up and get rg3....... Especially when we just got to the point where we were good....cause if we'd have missed, we would've been screwed for years to come.....



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this offense would be sssssssssssssssmokin with dink-n-dunk alex smith's 17 TD career high
And how is Schaub not a dink and dunk master? Face it Schaub has glairing weaknesses that hold this team back. Everyone has to play a perfect game on offense for him to be successful. He is incapable of making plays on his own. just like A Smith he is nothing more than a game manager.
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And how is Schaub not a dink and dunk master? Face it Schaub has glairing weaknesses that hold this team back. Everyone has to play a perfect game on offense for him to be successful. He is incapable of making plays on his own. just like A Smith he is nothing more than a game manager.
when has alex smth ever had 500 yard passing games or 4000 yard seasons or been a pro bowler?

schaub may be a game manager but he's way better than alex smith and it's not even a discussion.
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Lol at this hindsight ass logic. No way you're seriously advocating this & patting yourself on the back without taking to account what rg3 has done up to this point. It'd be patently stupid for us to give up our future and other potentially great young players already on the team to move up and get rg3....... Especially when we just got to the point where we were good....cause if we'd have missed, we would've been screwed for years to come.....



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This! Skill position players don't have time to be skillful with huge linemen ruining every play. Game is won in the trenches.
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when has alex smth ever had 500 yard passing games or 4000 yard seasons or been a pro bowler?

schaub may be a game manager but he's way better than alex smith and it's not even a discussion.
Oh here we go with stats again. Yes Im sorry Matt Schaub is awsome and has the STATS to back it up. No need for further discussion. Freaken Genius!
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Oh here we go with stats again. Yes Im sorry Matt Schaub is awsome and has the STATS to back it up. No need for further discussion. Freaken Genius!
better than some hypothetical bs with no base to lean on.

hepr derp texans win super bowl wif alex smif herp derp i did it in madden

alex smif put da team on his back doe
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Oh here we go with stats again. Yes Im sorry Matt Schaub is awsome and has the STATS to back it up. No need for further discussion. Freaken Genius!
How about if you present a real argument other then bashing stats as if stats isn't a huge indicator in any sports discussion. It has been and always will be, so stop with this consistent bashing of stats as if they mean nothing.

Explain a real plan on how the Texans find this top dog at QB or make the claim that you're willing to watching another 2-14 season so we can enter the #1 draft sweepstakes to find the next best QB coming out of college to build this team around.
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Not just QB bro, look at whos calling all these bone headed draws and screens or runs. Look at the boys, Hell they arent giving up like Kubiak. Just sad
Absolutely, Im not excusing the Offensive line, they played terrible today and have been mediocre this year. With that said, I think a more mobile QB give defenses something else to think about.

They didnt even blitz Schaub and was able to get to him because of our offensive line, and because Shaub isnt agile and played like he was afraid. Our recievers were covered and double covered all day because the vikings didnt have to blitz.

A mobile QB can try to off set the lack of production from the Offensive line. They would keep a few more inn the box then we have more openings down field.
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