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Old 12-23-2012   #201
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Did you just see Romo under throw the receiver there?
What a noodle arm !
Romo also evaded tacklers, something Schaub never does. Slow as a damn sloth. Tired of Schaub. Stat-padding machine.
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Can you imagine how good the Texans would be with a genuine elite QB?
A real leader. A guy who you have no doubt could lead the team to a game winning drive with two minutes left. A guy who can scramble. A guy who throws bullets on target. A guy who hits wide open receivers in stride.
We can only imagine. Schaubs not going anywhere anytime soon.
Duh!! Couldn't you say that about every team in this league who doesn't have one of the 4 elite guys?

What is the point in saying this if you can't get your hands on a guy who does all of that and is capable of throwing 35 TD's a year? You guys are clueless to the fact that you can't just go pick a guy off the street to do that. Unless you're going to suggest that the Texans completely tank their games for the next two years in order to get a #1 draft pick there is no way of getting a QB like that.
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How dare you use logic and your eyes to evaluate someone, there is NO room for logic like yours in this thread, please exit immediately Schaub made a completion and got a couple yards, who gives a damn about first downs its all about stats
But, but ... you just don't understand, stats tell them differently.


Stats are facts don't you know?
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the texans could be better with a ton of different guys who arent elite.. this idea that the only upgrade over schaub is an elite guy is nonsense.. theres a ton of room that separates schaub from elite.. any of the guys who fall into that area between elite to schaub would be an upgrade..
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Duh!! Couldn't you say that about every team in this league who doesn't have one of the 4 elite guys?

What is the point in saying this if you can't get your hands on a guy who does all of that and is capable of throwing 35 TD's a year? You guys are clueless to the fact that you can't just go pick a guy off the street to do that. Unless you're going to suggest that the Texans completely tank their games for the next two years in order to get a #1 draft pick there is no way of getting a QB like that.
Somehow other teams do it, why not the Texans?
Can't a guy dream. Do you have something against hope?
And, the Texans were pretty much awful up until these last few years, why didn't we obtain an elite QB, instead of the Sloth?
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Teams know that Schaub is ineffective when mobile. Designate one defensive lineman to pursue on the bootleg, and it'll be busted most of the time. A scramble is an automatic incompletion. That's why Houston fans get envious when they see Cousins execute the bootleg flawlessly on his first try.
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the texans could be better with a ton of different guys who arent elite.. this idea that the only upgrade over schaub is an elite guy is nonsense.. theres a ton of room that separates schaub from elite.. any of the guys who fall into that area between elite to schaub would be an upgrade..
According to some here there is very little difference between Schaub and the elite. They even have STATS/FACTS to back up their claims of his QB greatness.
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Somehow other teams do it, why not the Texans?
Can't a guy dream. Do you have something against hope?
And, the Texans were pretty much awful up until these last few years, why didn't we obtain an elite QB, instead of the Sloth?
Other teams do it? What the hell are you talking about? There are only like 4 teams that have elite QB's right now, so you are way off base to say something inaccurate like that. Ask the Dolphins, Niners, Bills, Bears, Cowboys, Jets, and a ton of other QB's around the league how hard it is to find an elite QB much less even a good one.

And what difference does it make about what the Texans didn't do several years ago? Who cares about that now? You can't change any of that. What the Texans did do is stack up a ton of great players like Cushing, Watt, Jackson, Reed, and out LT which have all contributed towards having the best team in the league in case you have forgotten. Oh, but we screwed up so badly by not drafting a QB every year until we potentially found an elite one. You sound like such a band wagoner.
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Other teams do it? What the hell are you talking about? There are only like 4 teams that have elite QB's right now, so you are way off base to say something inaccurate like that. Ask the Dolphins, Niners, Bills, Bears, Cowboys, Jets, and a ton of other QB's around the league how hard it is to find an elite QB much less even a good one.

And what difference does it make about what the Texans didn't do several years ago? Who cares about that now? You can't change any of that. What the Texans did do is stack up a ton of great players like Cushing, Watt, Jackson, Reed, and out LT which have all contributed towards having the best team in the league in case you have forgotten. Oh, but we screwed up so badly by not drafting a QB every year until we potentially found an elite one. You sound like such a band wagoner.
You can call me stupid. You can say I'm uninformed, misinformed, idiotic, ridiculous, moronic, pessimistic, heck anything but a Band Wagoner.
You have offended me sir.
You brought up the point that the Texans could tank for the next few years and secure a number one draft pick. I countered that the Texans pretty much sucked up until a few years back. Why didn't we get that elite QB then?
NO gets Brees. Denver gets Manning. Giants get younger Manning. Packers get Rodgers. San Fran has two pretty damn good QB's, how did that happen?
Heck, even Washington gets RG III.
So, while I understand most teams don't get elite, scrambling, and accurate QB's, some do.
We need to be that some.
This argument is moot for the most part. I'm a realist and know the Texans aren't getting rid of Sloth for a long time to come.
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You can call me stupid. You can say I'm uninformed, misinformed, idiotic, ridiculous, moronic, pessimistic, heck anything but a Band Wagoner.
You have offended me sir.
You brought up the point that the Texans could tank for the next few years and secure a number one draft pick. I countered that the Texans pretty much sucked up until a few years back. Why didn't we get that elite QB then?
NO gets Brees. Denver gets Manning. Giants get younger Manning. Packers get Rodgers. San Fran has two pretty damn good QB's, how did that happen?
Heck, even Washington gets RG III.
So, while I understand most teams don't get elite, scrambling, and accurate QB's, some do.
We need to be that some.
This argument is moot for the most part. I'm a realist and know the Texans aren't getting rid of Sloth for a long time to come.

Which isn't a bad deal at the end of the day. I'd like a mobile QB as well. I love QB's like that, but we don't "need" to have one to have a very good offense. You can use Sloth, and before this week we're the 3rd HIGHEST SCORING TEAM in the league. You guys are obviously not aware of that or don't understand what is supposed to win games. Points are what win games, and there is no denying that Schaub's ability at QB is giving us a strong chance to win games when this team's record is what it is and when we're 3rd in points scored compared to 29 other teams in this league.

Schaub may have limitations, but so do a ton of other QB's in this league. That doesn't mean that this team can't be great in several other areas which should equal a ton of wins which this team has this year.
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Yes, points and a good defense win games.
I want to see how Schaub performs in the play offs. Given his last two prime time performances I'm not filled with an overwhelming sense of confidence.
And for Schaub to perform well all other offensive mechanisms have to work almost flawlessly. A tiny bit of pressure and Schaub's thrown for a loop. Wouldn't it be great if we had a guy who didn't have a complete conniption, meltdown, sloth-like reaction, to an ounce of pressure?
Yes, many QB's meltdown when given an ounce of pressure.
He performs great in the play offs I'll lay off my constant criticism of him, seriously.
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Meanwhile TJ Yates gets in there and immediately turns the ball over. Lol!! so much for that.
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Kubiak needs to pick a QB in the draft, higher rounds, that might actually have a shot at starting. Not a TJ who can be a cheap backup and POSSIBLY a trade asset. He is a great QB coach, he should get a guy that with work can come out of the second round and challenge Schaub.

This 5th round, scrap heap FA strategy will never land you anything special.
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damn, look at flacco shredding the giants defense.. strong arm, extending plays, and making throws in tight coverage... who said he was terrible..
given the choice between the 2, ide take flacco every time..
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That was absolutely one of Aikman's greatest strengths. Very few QB's have been as precise.
I know. But if Matt is the guy we think he is, I think he needs to get into that realm. He doesn't have the arm, doesn't have the wheels, doesn't have the "climb on my back" thing going for him.
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I think you've figured it out.

We need to wear the Battle Red Jersies throughout the play offs & change our home colors back to the White Ones.
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How about this guy? Texans Future QB

He's got the arm, size and family pedigree to be a great QB. I'm sure his family has told him to be a QB before anything else in life. He won't be in the draft this year and we may have to trade up to get him but he might just be worth it.

Don't kill me!!!
I was just joking but...
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Where did I ever say anything CLOSE TO THAT? Matt Schaub has a great short game, average medium game and terrible deep game. He will loft it up there and sometimes he hits it, most of the time its under thrown, to dispute that is just ignorance and being a complete homer. No one here ever said Matt is garbage, but again, I keep pointing this out but no one is comprehending the simple FACT, that this thread is about FUTURE QB and my only point is, TJ Yates, has the best shot at the job and he should. Everything else (all 10 pages) is useless garbage and bickering for no reason.....Good day sir
Maybe you should read the conversation before interjecting irrelevant stuff. The post I was responding to said exactly that. It's pretty plain to see Schaub can throw more than 20 yards accurately, but all the stuff you're talking about has nothing to do with that.
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Matt was a total wimp today. I get that he's trying to stay healthy so he can get to the playoffs -but man-he really has no ability to scramble and make a play -he's immediately looking to throw it away or go down to the ground.
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