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Old 12-18-2012   #21
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Bledsoe lost his job to Brady and the (much much) better guy kept it. I'm not sure Kaepernick is the better guy. He gives them a better chance to win the big games but also a bigger chance to lose the easily winnable ones.
Well, they could start whomever is appropriate for the opponent, but Smith isn't going to like not ever playing in the playoffs, along with the obvious of not being "the" starter. I guess it's a little late to worry about this idea in the regular season this year.
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Could be wrong, but I don't think we'd do that so much if we had better coverage from our LBs. Cushing's injury hurts a lot, for one thing.
That was the knock on Demeco. Wade brings in that 3rd safety (Making Quin a smallish LB) too often to warrant Demeco's price tag.
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That was the knock on Demeco. Wade brings in that 3rd safety (Making Quin a smallish LB) too often to warrant Demeco's price tag.
Yeah, I was trying to remember if Ryans was good in coverage.
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I like Brandon Harris more than I like McCain.

I think we need to draft a safety kind of high in the draft...Either that or hope that Eddie Pleasant is the guy that can step in and make plays...

Our safeties haven't been playing all that well IMO...but the thing is any one of them could make a big play at any time. If one of them makes a big play at a crucial moment I think all would be forgiven by most...But I think we could use another good safety even if we re-sign Quinn..
Agreed on Harris and the S issue.

A good S should be available in the 4-5th rd range. Guys that I really like are Duke Williams/Shamarko Thomas who is going to tear up the combine, but isn't real instinctive but could do a good job covering the TE.

That's the reason Quin doesn't have many picks is he covers the TE and Demps is the deep centerfielder type S in the nickle packages. Another S I really like is Jordan Kovacs. Very smart guy who always seems to be in the right place. Kind of like Quin.
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Agreed on Harris and the S issue.

A good S should be available in the 4-5th rd range. Guys that I really like are Duke Williams/Shamarko Thomas who is going to tear up the combine, but isn't real instinctive but could do a good job covering the TE.
Do you think maybe the game is changing & it would be wise to get away from the traditional safety & target talented.... big corners?

I mean look at what Belichick did with McCourty. I don't think Bill is saying he can't play corner, he's just saying they don't really have any good safeties out there.

Chung, Landry, several others who were supposed to be something.... aren't really much.


Think about this... Let's say we resign Routt. Routt, Kj, Harris.. they'd make great safeties & probably have more range than any safety coming out of the draft. None of them have hands, I don't think.

What do you think?
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Do you think maybe the game is changing & it would be wise to get away from the traditional safety & target talented.... big corners?

I mean look at what Belichick did with McCourty. I don't think Bill is saying he can't play corner, he's just saying they don't really have any good safeties out there.

Chung, Landry, several others who were supposed to be something.... aren't really much.


Think about this... Let's say we resign Routt. Routt, Kj, Harris.. they'd make great safeties & probably have more range than any safety coming out of the draft. None of them have hands, I don't think.

What do you think?
If they resign Routt, I'll let Jackson, Quin, and Manning rotate or play in some form of a platoon depending on the matchup.

In nickel or dime, all 3 of them will be on the field.

Jackson can give Routt and JJo a breather now and then, too!
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Do you think maybe the game is changing & it would be wise to get away from the traditional safety & target talented.... big corners?

I mean look at what Belichick did with McCourty. I don't think Bill is saying he can't play corner, he's just saying they don't really have any good safeties out there.

Chung, Landry, several others who were supposed to be something.... aren't really much.


Think about this... Let's say we resign Routt. Routt, Kj, Harris.. they'd make great safeties & probably have more range than any safety coming out of the draft. None of them have hands, I don't think.

What do you think?
Well got to remember we're no different. We are doing the same as Bill. Quin and Manning were originally corners so maybe it is. But I would say we may be moving more into it 'was' changing. The change was because of all these teams spreading it out with multiple receiver sets but lately there seems a new shift with these tight ends. Gonzales, Graham, Gronk/Hernandez, our own OD...these corner shifted to safties don't safeties are generally outsized by these guys.

It's like a chess match. Teams began shifting corners to safeties to deal with receiver sets so offenses grabbed atheletic tight ends. Well....time for the defenses to make their move, heh. I know I would love a corner that was 6'3 or so like these receivers lately. Going to need someone to get up there with these leapers like AJ Green, Julio Jones and of course Megatron.
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Well got to remember we're no different. We are doing the same as Bill. Quin and Manning were originally corners so maybe it is. But I would say we may be moving more into it 'was' changing. The change was because of all these teams spreading it out with multiple receiver sets but lately there seems a new shift with these tight ends. Gonzales, Graham, Gronk/Hernandez, our own OD...these corner shifted to safties don't safeties are generally outsized by these guys.

It's like a chess match. Teams began shifting corners to safeties to deal with receiver sets so offenses grabbed atheletic tight ends. Well....time for the defenses to make their move, heh. I know I would love a corner that was 6'3 or so like these receivers lately. Going to need someone to get up there with these leapers like AJ Green, Julio Jones and of course Megatron.
I agree, it's much like a chess match but just like the ever ongoing problem to find that space eating NG, these guys don't grow on trees.
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Jackson is FINALLY looking good at corner and some of you want to move him to S?
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I agree with that.

Guys that can play tight man coverage are valuable. Kj has developed into the kind of corner that is most always in position on his man.

Only way I'd move him at this point is if he starts to struggle or if someone better or just as good comes a long.
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Yeah, I would if the Texans are able to resign Routt to a decent contract that is not expensive.

It's about putting your best eleven on the field.

Remember that I am the most vocal defender of Jackson from day one.
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Do you think maybe the game is changing & it would be wise to get away from the traditional safety & target talented.... big corners?

I mean look at what Belichick did with McCourty. I don't think Bill is saying he can't play corner, he's just saying they don't really have any good safeties out there.

Chung, Landry, several others who were supposed to be something.... aren't really much.


Think about this... Let's say we resign Routt. Routt, Kj, Harris.. they'd make great safeties & probably have more range than any safety coming out of the draft. None of them have hands, I don't think.

What do you think?
Mathieu would be perfect, if he weren't a drug dealer. I do like Rhodes but that would cost a 1st rd pick. Micah Hyde could do the job and will be a later rd pick.

None of the current Texan CB's are good enough tacklers for me to be comfortable with them as the last line of defense. KJ could do the job, but I think it would be wrong to move him. It looks like he's become a servicable CB.
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I don;t think Nolan has been given a solid chance in game situations. I'd rather see Nolan than Demps.
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