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Old 12-17-2012   #1
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I know we had cut him before last season. He went to another team, they released him, we needed a safety, we signed him back to the team. We thought we were lucky as he made a few opportune plays that we really needed.

He beats out Troy Nolan & we send Nolan packing.

I don't know how he's been playing all year, I think he must have been "ok" since I hadn't really noticed him. But last week against the Patriots & yesterday against the Colts, the two big touchdown plays were made possible because he was looking in the backfield, standing flat-footed as receivers ran right past him.

He got benched yesterday. At least I believe he did, I didn't see him in the second half. Shilo Keo played instead. He stayed deep, like a safety is supposed to.

Do you think Demps is the guy that needs to be on the field? Do you think he learns his lesson & gets on the field again?

It's Wade's call & I trust him to make the right call. But I hope he is not starting next week. Instead, I'd rather Keo gets the first snaps in our dime package, then they allow Demps to take a series, but he should have the understanding he needs to play well to get any more snaps than that.

One mistake & he's going to the locker room early.
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Cool Re: Quinten Demps

You're right on all of that - my answer is he is so far down the depth chart what do you do? If there was a better player on the street they would sign him.

Vandermeer was talking about that play this morning.

Week to week the best player on the bench will play.
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He got benched yesterday. At least I believe he did, I didn't see him in the second half. Shilo Keo played instead. He stayed deep, like a safety is supposed to.

Do you think Demps is the guy that needs to be on the field? Do you think he learns his lesson & gets on the field again?
I think Demps was injured. I remember seeing him holding his arm after a tackle at one point. I'd have to rewatch to confirm that though.
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I know we had cut him before last season. He went to another team, they released him, we needed a safety, we signed him back to the team. We thought we were lucky as he made a few opportune plays that we really needed.

He beats out Troy Nolan & we send Nolan packing.

I don't know how he's been playing all year, I think he must have been "ok" since I hadn't really noticed him. But last week against the Patriots & yesterday against the Colts, the two big touchdown plays were made possible because he was looking in the backfield, standing flat-footed as receivers ran right past him.

He got benched yesterday. At least I believe he did, I didn't see him in the second half. Shilo Keo played instead. He stayed deep, like a safety is supposed to.

Do you think Demps is the guy that needs to be on the field? Do you think he learns his lesson & gets on the field again?

It's Wade's call & I trust him to make the right call. But I hope he is not starting next week. Instead, I'd rather Keo gets the first snaps in our dime package, then they allow Demps to take a series, but he should have the understanding he needs to play well to get any more snaps than that.

One mistake & he's going to the locker room early.
Agree and throw in Brandon Harris and his "can't hang with my assignment so I will hold" ass as well...
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Agree and throw in Brandon Harris and his "can't hang with my assignment so I will hold" ass as well...
Yeah, a guy who can't hang with Reggie Wayne doesn't need to be in this league.
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I always hate safeties that don't make sure of their deep responsibility first.

And it's not just Demps.

On the other hand, I haven't seen much from a scheme standpoint where Wade baits the QB with exchanged responsibility by the DBs as of late.

I hope he's saving them for the play-offs.
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Yeah, a guy who can't hang with Reggie Wayne doesn't need to be in this league.
A guy who has to hold a defender, no matter whom it is, because he cannot keep up doesn't need to be in the league...A guy who for the past 3 weeks has committed a stupid holding penalty, extending the drive for the other team, doesn't need to be on the field, much less in the league...

Wayne isn't the only WR Harris has covered...

Have I mentioned I don't like Harris and now understand why he was never played. Only reason he plays now is not by choice, but lack of options for the Texans coaching staff...
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Have I mentioned I don't like Harris and now understand why he was never played. Only reason he plays now is not by choice, but lack of options for the Texans coaching staff...
eh....... I think McCain has lost his job.
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Default Re: Quinten Demps

Ok, rewatching the game. Thinking maybe I'm being a little knee jerk.

on the series before Demps gave up that touchdown, he broke on a ball intended for Reggie Wayne, should have intercepted it. However, that pass defensed stopped the Colts on a 3rd & 15 & forced them to punt.

That punt was the one Bryan Braman blocked & returned for a touchdown.

So he's not useless..... but I still believe he was benched & I'm glad that he was. Accountability.
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I hope it's been a function of lack of other options that has him seeing any kind of significant PT. While I finally like our options at starting safeties...the backups leave way too much to be desired.
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In April we will see the Texans start to replace some players and strengthen our depth. I think it is great we have only one dire need this off season. If Quin is signed, safety is far down the list.
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I hope it's been a function of lack of other options that has him seeing any kind of significant PT. While I finally like our options at starting safeties...the backups leave way too much to be desired.
With the amount of time our third safety plays, I don't know that you can call him depth. Same with our nickel, we're in nickel too much to not believe we start 3 CBs. Too much dime to not believe we start 3 safeties.
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I like Brandon Harris more than I like McCain.

I think we need to draft a safety kind of high in the draft...Either that or hope that Eddie Pleasant is the guy that can step in and make plays...

Our safeties haven't been playing all that well IMO...but the thing is any one of them could make a big play at any time. If one of them makes a big play at a crucial moment I think all would be forgiven by most...But I think we could use another good safety even if we re-sign Quinn..
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I like Brandon Harris more than I like McCain.

I think we need to draft a safety kind of high in the draft...Either that or hope that Eddie Pleasant is the guy that can step in and make plays...

Our safeties haven't been playing all that well IMO...but the thing is any one of them could make a big play at any time. If one of them makes a big play at a crucial moment I think all would be forgiven by most...But I think we could use another good safety even if we re-sign Quinn..
I agree. I think Quin consistently makes plays, but they aren't the game changing plays like INTs, sacks or TFLs. Manning, just too far inbetween considering the pressure we do get when we get it, & Demps... he's almost invisible.

I like the starting combo of Manning & Quin, but I'd like to get a solid third... as many snaps as he gets, he's practically a starter. Needs to be a play-maker.
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With the amount of time our third safety plays, I don't know that you can call him depth. Same with our nickel, we're in nickel too much to not believe we start 3 CBs. Too much dime to not believe we start 3 safeties.
Could be wrong, but I don't think we'd do that so much if we had better coverage from our LBs. Cushing's injury hurts a lot, for one thing.
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Bledsoe lost his job to Brady and the (much much) better guy kept it. I'm not sure Kaepernick is the better guy. He gives them a better chance to win the big games but also a bigger chance to lose the easily winnable ones.
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