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Old 06-04-2005   #1
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I say what the hell. Go sign him and in negotiations tell him he is guaranteed the starting left tackle spot. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=2075601
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I knew it was only a matter of time before someone made a "get Verba now" thread...I saw this in the Cleveland Plain Dealer:

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"That's great," said Verba when informed Friday night about Shelton. "Now they have a left tackle and hopefully they'll cut me. Please cut me now!"

Verba, who's been holding out for a bigger contract, said those plans haven't changed. He has said he'll sit out the season if the Browns don't up the ante. Verba is under contract for two more seasons at $2.95 million a year, but wants a five-year deal worth about $38.5 million.
Let's give another aging veteran a ridiculous contract, great idea ...
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even if we got verba, he'd probably injure his left shoulder before the season, sit out a year or two, then retire.
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even if we got verba, he'd probably injure his left shoulder before the season, sit out a year or two, then retire.

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lol seems about right

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how about not...this guy thinks he's the next chad clifton or something...he's an average guard playing LT...i would gladdly take another year of seth wand playing LT and pitts playing LG rather than sign this joke and see him f-up the o-line...and THERE IS NO WAY he is worth 38.5 million dollars
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how about not...this guy thinks he's the next chad clifton or something...he's an average guard playing LT...i would gladdly take another year of seth wand playing LT and pitts playing LG rather than sign this joke and see him f-up the o-line...and THERE IS NO WAY he is worth 38.5 million dollars
I agree. Why waste ALOT of money on this guy, when we have Pitts at LG and a sure to improve Wand at LT. If Wand somehow doesnt progress enough to be a good enough starter for us this year, there is always a very strong OT draft coming up next season. Anyways, when CC was talking on TV at the Astros game the other day, he said they want to build this team through the draft and not through FAs. I would rather let Seth Wand show us what he is made of this year, and if its not enough grab a LT in the high 1st round of the draft next year.
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Ross Verba is one of the premier tackles in the game. Let me make you aware of something. People talk about hes an aging veteran but look at Walter Jones,Orlando Pace, and Jonathan Ogden. All 4 of these players are 30 or older including Ross so you are telling me that you would not sign any of the 4 b/c they are getting older? And to the guy who said something about him being injured he missed 22 games out of a possible 128 games. Which means throughout his career he has played 83% of the time. So I think the injury argument is stupid. Obviously Charley Casserly is not throwin money around b/c if he was we would have signed Boulware and Shelton so I say sign Verba to a good deal and let that be that.
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET OFF WAND'S WAND BECAUSE HE WILL NEVER BE A PREMEIR TACKLE IN THIS LEAGUE. WE NEED TO GO AND GET ONE AND VERBA WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT CHOICE IF HE BECOMES AVALIBLE. IF WE DO NOT GET A GOOD ONE SOON WE MAY NOT SEE CARR MUCH LONGER . HIS TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET OFF WAND'S WAND BECAUSE HE WILL NEVER BE A PREMEIR TACKLE IN THIS LEAGUE. WE NEED TO GO AND GET ONE AND VERBA WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT CHOICE IF HE BECOMES AVALIBLE. IF WE DO NOT GET A GOOD ONE SOON WE MAY NOT SEE CARR MUCH LONGER . HIS TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

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I was all for getting a new lt, but I donít want to pull someone in because we are in need and will jump at anyone available. Shelton was a teams castoff, and he is replacing another teams cast off. I would much rather stick it out another year, and take someone in a draft that has good tackles in it. That way we get someone young, who is good, and who can grow with this team, and doesnít cost an arm and a leg because we are so desperate.

Someone said it in another post somewhere. If we are going to acquire another FA this year, I would much rather it be a quality TE (if one comes available) and just hold off till next years draft and get ourselves a new tackle. . .
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I was all for getting a new lt, but I donít want to pull someone in because we are in need and will jump at anyone available. Shelton was a teams castoff, and he is replacing another teams cast off. I would much rather stick it out another year, and take someone in a draft that has good tackles in it. That way we get someone young, who is good, and who can grow with this team, and doesnít cost an arm and a leg because we are so desperate.

Someone said it in another post somewhere. If we are going to acquire another FA this year, I would much rather it be a quality TE (if one comes available) and just hold off till next years draft and get ourselves a new tackle. . .
Yeah, because an LT is no where as an important as having a TE who can catch and block
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in what world is verba one of the premier tackles in the game...i honestly do not think that any of the gm's in the league believe he is worth 38.5 million...especially his own gm...the browns haven't had a LT since they came back to the league...ross verba isn't the guy we need...now i'm not saying that seth wand is the answer but the answer will probably going to come in next years draft
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A tightend is very important but, how can you throw the ball with no protection. Without a left tackle this will be Carr.

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Yeah, because an LT is no where as an important as having a TE who can catch and block

I'm not sure if we are on the same page here or not. Are you saying that getting another TE during FA is not a good idea, and that we should grab a LT who is available? Or are you saying we should get a quality TE if one comes available and worry about the LT during the draft next year?

I believe the latter of the two is the best choice at this point.
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A tightend is very important but, how can you throw the ball with no protection. Without a left tackle this will be Carr.

That's a cute picture but I'm not sure what you are trying to say? That picture looks like that thing is in a limbo contest.... HEY CARR, HOW LOW CAN YOU GO, HOW LOW CAN YOU GO!
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LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY THEN PROTECT HIM OR ITS LIGHTS OUT
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I thought the coaches addressed that already. Didn't they say they are going to more 3 and 5 step passes with more blocking? I think his protection is paramount this year. I am just hoping and praying that the Texans land a franchise LT in the next draft.
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I am just hoping and praying that the Texans land a franchise LT in the next draft.
I'd rather have a premier tight end. I also don't want to see us drafting very high next year.
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Our own pick won't be that high. I'd set the over-under at 18. But I expect to see Casserly trade up into the top ten or as high as he thinks is necessary to get whichever tackle he likes best, probably using Davis and/or Ragone as leverage.
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