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Don't expect perfection. When you see games like Buffalo that didn't turn out to be as big a win as everyone expected, or tight games against inferior teams like OT victories vs the Jags & Lions it creates seeds of doubt. We all know that teams can win the Superbowl as a wildcard team. The Giants just won the Superbowl after a 9-7 regular season. That's 7 turds they laid. Plus...5 of their WINS were by 4 points or less. Not very impressive. Even teams that win 14+ in the regular season like the Colts in 2009 have some close games. They went 14-0 and sat players for the final 2 games (they lost both). Here's the scores of those 14 Colts wins:

Jags - 14-12
@ Dolphins - 27-23
@ Cards - 31-10
Seahawks - 34-17
@ Titans - 31-9
@ Rams - 42-6
49ers - 18-14
Texans - 20-17
Pats - 35-34
@ Ravens - 17-15
@ Texans - 35-27
Titans - 27-17
Broncos - 28-16
@ Jags - 35-31

Sure, that schedule didn't have many creampuffs on it but there also were 8 one score wins. Not exactly dominating. Other than the 16-0 2007 Patriots (who lost the SB) there hasn't been a team that dominates week after week in the regular season. The NFL is too difficult.

Bad teams beat themselves. Good teams find ways to win. We finally have a team that is a true contender. The NFL regular season record is only used to set up the playoffs.

Bottom line is: All we should care about is the Texans going on a 3 game win streak in the playoffs and returning from from New Orleans with a silver trophy with a football on top.
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Speaking of which, shouldn't they have already sent out the play-off invoices?

I'm ready. Been ready. I know Bob wants my money, what's the hold up?
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Speaking of which, shouldn't they have already sent out the play-off invoices?

I'm ready. Been ready. I know Bob wants my money, what's the hold up?
Why? They haven't even clinched yet.
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Why? They haven't even clinched yet.
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Speaking of which, shouldn't they have already sent out the play-off invoices?

I'm ready. Been ready. I know Bob wants my money, what's the hold up?
They sent the letter making sure they had your right address.

All in good time.
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They sent the letter making sure they had your right address.

All in good time.
When I saw it, I thought it was the invoice for the play-off games. I was thinking, "My, they're feeling very confident."
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Ugh... We should have won both of those Colts games that year. Should have been a wild card team that year.
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Speaking of which, shouldn't they have already sent out the play-off invoices?

I'm ready. Been ready. I know Bob wants my money, what's the hold up?
If I remember right, they sent them out after the first week of December (6th-10th somewhere around there) with a deadline of the 23rd or something like that, maybe a little later.
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How many remember that the Patriots came close to losing to an AJ Feeley led Eagles...Speaking about the Patriots, where would they be with out that kicker Vinateari(sp)?

To me, no such thing as a good L or a bad W.

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Some people are just happy with getting across the finish line. Some like to brag about ribbons and trophies. I remember getting a ribbon for three rabbits I enterred at Houston Fat Stock Show as a kid. Momma liked it but I was only one entered in that category and judge told me they were not even show rabbit quality. He felt sorry for me.

Sure asloppy win is acceptable but I watch sports to be entertained not so I can brag on my team being less pukey than the opponent. Too many sloppies and I go elsewhere.
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Sure asloppy win is acceptable but I watch sports to be entertained not so I can brag on my team being less pukey than the opponent. Too many sloppies and I go elsewhere.
Sloppy is one thing. I didn't think either the Jags game or the Lions game was sloppy. I was thoroughly entertained.

Well, the Jags was a little sloppy, missed assignments & what not. But it's not like we turned the ball over 8 times or shot ourselves in the foot the way the Jets did. We got caught sleeping & managed to pull out a W.

It doesn't bother me that the Jags were 1-8. Or that the Lions have a losing record anymore than it bothers Belichick that the Seahawks started a rookie QB, or that Arizona doesn't even know who their QB is, or that they had to score 37 to beat the Bills, or that they lost to a team the Texans destroyed.

It's all football & entertaining, and if it weren't for the parity in the league, most of us wouldn't be watching.
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Speaking of which, shouldn't they have already sent out the play-off invoices?

I'm ready. Been ready. I know Bob wants my money, what's the hold up?

They are in now, payment due by Dec 14th.

You can see them on line, go to Houston Texans web site, the tickets, then sign in to you account.
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They sent the letter making sure they had your right address.

All in good time.
Damnit woman!! You just reminded me that I haven't mailed or faxed that sheet in yet.... Okay, maybe not "damnit woman" but more like: "Thank you Steph for reminding me......"
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Some people are just happy with getting across the finish line. Some like to brag about ribbons and trophies. I remember getting a ribbon for three rabbits I enterred at Houston Fat Stock Show as a kid. Momma liked it but I was only one entered in that category and judge told me they were not even show rabbit quality. He felt sorry for me.

Sure asloppy win is acceptable but I watch sports to be entertained not so I can brag on my team being less pukey than the opponent. Too many sloppies and I go elsewhere.
What team ever just rolls through a season? As has been mentioned, the Giants, the SUPER BOWL CHAMPION GIANTS, lost 7 games last year. Say what you want about them, they have the hardware, and if you tell Giant fan they slopped to the title, it doesn't matter. Scoreboard.

The Texans may be playing through some sloppy games right now, but they are still winning those games. The Giants played a couple of sloppy games the last 2 weeks and lost. Come January, none of that is really going to mean a whole lot. The Patriots were 16-0 but when January started they were 0-0, just like the other 11 teams that made it to the 2nd season.

Teams have bad stretches of games. The best teams lose to the worst teams on any given day. You just have bad days. You get into funks. That's just the nature of sports. The fact that the Texans are still finding ways to win when not playing their best is pretty freaking sweet. If the Texans are having one of those bad days in January, the fact that they know they can win a game like that can only help.

2 straight years of double digit wins sure beats 9 straight years of no playoffs. Let's enjoy the ride for a change.
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Sloppy is one thing. I didn't think either the Jags game or the Lions game was sloppy. I was thoroughly entertained.

Well, the Jags was a little sloppy, missed assignments & what not. But it's not like we turned the ball over 8 times or shot ourselves in the foot the way the Jets did. We got caught sleeping & managed to pull out a W.

It doesn't bother me that the Jags were 1-8. Or that the Lions have a losing record anymore than it bothers Belichick that the Seahawks started a rookie QB, or that Arizona doesn't even know who their QB is, or that they had to score 37 to beat the Bills, or that they lost to a team the Texans destroyed.

It's all football & entertaining, and if it weren't for the parity in the league, most of us wouldn't be watching.
Parity for me is that every team has same chance to get better. Parity is not 17 teams under 500 and 5 more @545 (6-5). This is why Ws are not the main reason I watch. I really bothered me that a 1-8 team gave us a real run for our money. Lions was a bit different but did keep me on edge of seat. If most of our games were like Jags, I would probably quit watching. Now as we are keepin our #1 rank and other teams realize they have to bring it or they're going home with tails between their legs, it does get harder. I don't see any easy teams left but I don't see any I fear. If Joseph is solid against N.E. we should beat them. I think Tate could be the turning point for us if he comes back productive. With our three backs we should manhandle all future opponents.
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And the funny thing is, the Texans will get it together next Sunday, bash the Inbreds 42-10, and it still won't be good enough because it was the Inbreds. Hard to please some people.
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What team ever just rolls through a season? As has been mentioned, the Giants, the SUPER BOWL CHAMPION GIANTS, lost 7 games last year. Say what you want about them, they have the hardware, and if you tell Giant fan they slopped to the title, it doesn't matter. Scoreboard.

The Texans may be playing through some sloppy games right now, but they are still winning those games. The Giants played a couple of sloppy games the last 2 weeks and lost. Come January, none of that is really going to mean a whole lot. The Patriots were 16-0 but when January started they were 0-0, just like the other 11 teams that made it to the 2nd season.

Teams have bad stretches of games. The best teams lose to the worst teams on any given day. You just have bad days. You get into funks. That's just the nature of sports. The fact that the Texans are still finding ways to win when not playing their best is pretty freaking sweet. If the Texans are having one of those bad days in January, the fact that they know they can win a game like that can only help.

2 straight years of double digit wins sure beats 9 straight years of no playoffs. Let's enjoy the ride for a change.
I see bad day diffferent than sloppy day. A bad day is when Schaub bounce a pass off a TE and it is intercepted, or referees don't blow whistle when the runner is down and a TD that wasn't beats you. A bad day is when you just miss your block, tackle, a hole or you jump just a second too soon and the pass brushes your fingers.

The last three games have been good for me and the Texans to see that they can still win; slop would not have gotten a win. It is also good to see the coaching.

It seems though that I am outnumbered that most just want a trophy regardless of how it comes.

I AM NOT saying this is a sloppy team but there has been some sloppy plays.
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And the funny thing is, the Texans will get it together next Sunday, bash the Inbreds 42-10, and it still won't be good enough because it was the Inbreds. Hard to please some people.
Not Inbreds, "Tinnbreds".. Sheesh, get it right.

That said, I'm calling another close game. The Tinnbreds are a divisional foe and we certainly are having a target on our back. I don't think it will be nearly the nail-biter that the last two games have been, but I'm thinking it will be more like a 21-10 or a 27-17 type game.
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And the funny thing is, the Texans will get it together next Sunday, bash the Inbreds 42-10, and it still won't be good enough because it was the Inbreds. Hard to please some people.
We should beat them by that score but do you think we will? Does not mean it will be sloppy but I expect us to beat the opponent on the field whether the scoreboard reflects it or not.
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