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Old 11-18-2012   #21
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i dont think thats bullocks game either, hes a under pressure, clutch, consistency guy, not a monster leg guy..
Even if he is NFL average on kickoffs that is a big upgrade. I am hoping for better than average.
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People said he used to kick plenty of touchbacks while at A&M
Positives: Accurate field-goal kicker with adequate leg strength. Displays the ability to kick in all kinds of weather, dependable and comes up with big field goals. Gets good lift, as the ball immediately comes off his foot, and is able to get hang time on kickoffs.

Negatives: Average leg strength and does not drive kickoffs through the end zone. Career-long field goal is 52 yards.



i was never for graham over this kid.. bullock missed one kick and never got a shot to kick another deep FG. graham kick a few 50 + yarders through and that was that.. most were high on bullocks consistency and ability to be clutch. the texans were willing to live with the fact that he didnt have a monster leg.. kubes stashed him on IR..
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So many beastly rookie kickers this year, and we picked the chubby one that got a booboo in the preseason.
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So many beastly rookie kickers this year, and we picked the chubby one that got a booboo in the preseason.
Or our pathetic front office sent him to IR resort because Gary doesn't trust rookies
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Or our pathetic front office sent him to IR resort because Gary doesn't trust rookies
What makes you say that? I never thought Kubiak was a coach afraid to play rookies.
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There's a reason he was available. Still he wouldn't be the first kicker to ever get iced like that. Hopefully Bullock comes through for us next season and we can address the position on a more permanent basis.
There's a reason the Texans brought in Kickers last week for tryouts too .....


After he missed that first one , at the end of the first half , I kept telling myself that would come back to bite them in the ass ....


Then Caldwell false starts .... and I think to myself again , wow thats gonna cost them the game.


Cant put it all on Graham , Schaub's INT's , Fosters fumble , the defense giving up big plays on 3rd down on multiple occasions ..... but Graham hasnt been very good at all at any point this season ... no depth on kickoffs , poor range on FG's ..... they really better solve that issue before playoff time or ... that may be the difference between a Lombardi Trophy and losing a home game.
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I'd rather have Anger than any of the 3rd round picks we have.
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Can't see Kubiak letting the K go unless he just blows kick after kick.

Rackers shouldn't have mouthed off when he went to Washington, or he might be on a short list if we let our K go.

Still, there would be no way we'd cut Graham right now. He's pretty shaky, though. You can see it all over him. He's got that Shankville look to him.
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That End of Regulation FG attempt was terrible. Not giving me much confidence heading into the final stretch of our season.
I thought the whole point with stashing Bullock on IR with an "injury" was to go with the veteran. I'd rather have the stronger leg right now. Graham can't be used for anything over 50 based on us punting from the 36.
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graham was in the bottom half of the league in terms of field goal percentage before today, i'm not sure why anyone thought he was good to begin with. as i said elsewhere - average kicker, weak leg, and has been mostly unemployed the last 2 years. we needed an upgrade before today, and shanking a potential game winner so badly just reinforces that.
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I thought the whole point with stashing Bullock on IR with an "injury" was to go with the veteran. I'd rather have the stronger leg right now. Graham can't be used for anything over 50 based on us punting from the 36.
Bullock had a legit injury ... it wasnt an IR stash. A kicker with a bad groin cant kick ....



Whats weird is that Graham looked pretty solid in preseason and the first week or two of the season .... Other than a lack of depth on kickoffs but now he looks like he's got a case of the yips.


He's a liability .... needs to be upgraded ASAP!!
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Bullock had a legit injury ... it wasnt an IR stash. A kicker with a bad groin cant kick ....



Whats weird is that Graham looked pretty solid in preseason and the first week or two of the season .... Other than a lack of depth on kickoffs but now he looks like he's got a case of the yips.


He's a liability .... needs to be upgraded ASAP!!
Graham is accurate and he's got enough leg. The issue is he's like "anti-clutch". He's the kind of guy who will always look good in preseason. He'll always make the kicks and PAT's that are routine and have nothing riding on them. Game winners are his Kryptonite though.
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graham was in the bottom half of the league in terms of field goal percentage before today, i'm not sure why anyone thought he was good to begin with. as i said elsewhere - average kicker, weak leg, and has been mostly unemployed the last 2 years. we needed an upgrade before today, and shanking a potential game winner so badly just reinforces that.
Isn't he like the 4th most accurate kicker ever?
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Bullock had a legit injury ... it wasnt an IR stash. A kicker with a bad groin cant kick ....



Whats weird is that Graham looked pretty solid in preseason and the first week or two of the season .... Other than a lack of depth on kickoffs but now he looks like he's got a case of the yips.


He's a liability .... needs to be upgraded ASAP!!
Unfortunately, we found a kicker without a bad groin that can't kick.......
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Bump.

Seriously, he sucks.
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I declare his new nick-name is "Slushbox" because there ain't no clutch involved.
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you have to make a roster move.. cut him, bring in someone else. graham is not the guy.. the texans have won back to back games that graham blew make-able kicks, what happens when the NEED a 50 yarder to tie and graham pulls it left.. if guys could keep their jobs because of what they did in the past then kris brown would still be our kicker..
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you have to make a roster move.. cut him, bring in someone else. graham is not the guy.. the texans have won back to back games that graham blew make-able kicks, what happens when the NEED a 50 yarder to tie and graham pulls it left.. if guys could keep their jobs because of what they did in the past then kris brown would still be our kicker..
Who would you replace him with? Who is available who can consistently kick 50 yarders?
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Who would you replace him with? Who is available who can consistently kick 50 yarders?
I believe Ryan Longwell is still available. Apparently he was 2/3 from that distance last year, and was 10/11 the last four years.
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