Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

stingray · 10-14-2012

If they don't blitz or J.J. doesn't get pressure then pressure is really non existent. We have been getting away with it because we have faced the likes of Gabbert/Tannehill/locker/Sanchez. If this team is gonna make any noise in the playoffs, Barwin/Reed/A. Smith are going to have to step it up. Simple as that.

TheIronDuke · 10-14-2012

I think we can pretty much count on Barwin doing absolutely nothing all year. I trust Wade to figure something out.

Honoring Earl 34 · 10-14-2012

I'd try Mercilus and Braman at this point .

wolf123 · 10-14-2012

Getting no pressure from the Edges.. JJ watt has to do everything.

ItsMyFault · 10-14-2012

It's pathetic to watch. No pass rush at all.

Texecutioner · 10-14-2012

Well, what in the hell is Mercilous going to do?? I mean, is that guy even up to snuff to play like a real NFL player? That's a serious question, because I haven't seen or heard his name at all this season hardly. Is he really that bad at practice that our coaching staff won't even give him opportunities to make plays? Hell this is a #1 draft pick. Normally these guys are starters or at least playing half the time.

You guys may not like what you're seeing from Barwin, but Mercilous obviously isn't doing anything to give the coaches any confidence.

Fili · 10-14-2012

Antonio Smith had an ankle injury and was probable.

Honoring Earl 34 · 10-14-2012

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Well, what in the hell is Mercilous going to do?? I mean, is that guy even up to snuff to play like a real NFL player? That's a serious question, because I haven't seen or heard his name at all this season hardly. Is he really that bad at practice that our coaching staff won't even give him opportunities to make plays? Hell this is a #1 draft pick. Normally these guys are starters or at least playing half the time.

You guys may not like what you're seeing from Barwin, but Mercilous obviously isn't doing anything to give the coaches any confidence.

Barwin , Mercilus , and Braman have the same number of sacks .

Texecutioner · 10-14-2012

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

Barwin , Mercilus , and Braman have the same number of sacks .

I don't really care about sack numbers completely. I just want to see constant pressure. Sacks have always been somewhat of an overrated stat to some degree. QB hurries is the real indicator. I'm not saying that Barwin is playing just fine, but what the hell is going on with this rookie? This Mercilous guy doesn't seem to have any confidence at all from the coaching staff.

Rey · 10-14-2012

When we made the merciless pick A thought actually popped into my head that it was a panic move.

Like they were expecting someone else to be there but when they weren't they panicked and picked merciless.

I've been against that pick since it was first announced and I could never understand it. He had good numbers in college, but I when I watched the film he had 0 burst, was not aggressive. Didn't play with a lot of passion. He does have a decent motor, but to me that's his best attribute.

The few times I've seen merci in the game he's looked worse than he did in college.

I honestly expected more out of barwin. But after watching him this season I'm honestly ready to see Braman.

I'm pleased with reed. He has played his position well. He is the solb and he sees a lot of runs at him.

Barwin is the wolb and is supposed to be your sack guy. He looks rather regular.

DX-TEX · 10-14-2012

Barwin needs to stop focusing on being a hipster ********* and blogging for the Houston Press and focus on actually showing up for games again.

Mr teX · 10-14-2012

Barwin is trash....dude hasnt been a factor all season

Rey · 10-14-2012

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner

what the hell is going on with this rookie? This Mercilous guy doesn't seem to have any confidence at all from the coaching staff.

Don't know about practice, but he's looked awfully timid the times he's gotten in the game.

I hate to say it, but he looks soft.

fiasco west · 10-14-2012

Wade is going to have to do something.

Cushing would rush some too though.

Really this is the only game our pass rush has looked bad and frankly I think Wade called a scared game today.

Also Barwin sucks.

Texecutioner · 10-14-2012

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Originally Posted by Rey

Don't know about practice, but he's looked awfully timid the times he's gotten in the game.

I hate to say it, but he looks soft.

Sort of my initial thoughts from what I've seen as well. Haven't seen him enough though. I haven't heard anything about practice either. I just figured that he must not be showing jack at practice for him to be absent from the field so much.

Luv_ya_blue · 10-14-2012

Would very much like to see Brahman get into the mix.
The kid really brings the hat.
Intensity is what we need badly right now.
Would be nice to have somebody other than JJ come to play some football.

Mr. Texan · 10-14-2012

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Originally Posted by DX-TEX

Barwin needs to stop focusing on being a hipster ********* and blogging for the Houston Press and focus on actually showing up for games again.

LOL truuuuuuuuuu

Rey · 10-14-2012

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Sort of my initial thoughts from what I've seen as well. Haven't seen him enough though. I haven't heard anything about practice either. I just figured that he must not be showing jack at practice for him to be absent from the field so much.

Well, he's in the game now so we'll see...

Texecutioner · 10-14-2012

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Originally Posted by Luv_ya_blue

Would very much like to see Brahman get into the mix.
The kid really brings the hat.
Intensity is what we need badly right now.
Would be nice to have somebody other than JJ come to play some football.

Good call LYB.

He just answered your request.

Rey · 10-14-2012

More Braman please...

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TheIronDuke Disabled List Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston Age: 34 Posts: 3,108 Rep Power: 19430	Re: Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year I think we can pretty much count on Barwin doing absolutely nothing all year. I trust Wade to figure something out.

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Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston Age: 50 Posts: 16,738 Rep Power: 35890	Re: Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year I'd try Mercilus and Braman at this point . __________________ "I've been on food stamps and welfare, did anybody help me out? ... Craig T. Nelson:

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wolf123 All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 27 Posts: 692 Rep Power: 1857	Re: Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year Getting no pressure from the Edges.. JJ watt has to do everything.

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ItsMyFault It's on me. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago/Houston Posts: 117 Rep Power: 486	Re: Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year It's pathetic to watch. No pass rush at all. __________________

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Texecutioner Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 12,296 Rep Power: 29902	Re: Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year Well, what in the hell is Mercilous going to do?? I mean, is that guy even up to snuff to play like a real NFL player? That's a serious question, because I haven't seen or heard his name at all this season hardly. Is he really that bad at practice that our coaching staff won't even give him opportunities to make plays? Hell this is a #1 draft pick. Normally these guys are starters or at least playing half the time. You guys may not like what you're seeing from Barwin, but Mercilous obviously isn't doing anything to give the coaches any confidence.

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stingray Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brownsville, Tx Age: 40 Posts: 4,699 Rep Power: 9694	Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year If they don't blitz or J.J. doesn't get pressure then pressure is really non existent. We have been getting away with it because we have faced the likes of Gabbert/Tannehill/locker/Sanchez. If this team is gonna make any noise in the playoffs, Barwin/Reed/A. Smith are going to have to step it up. Simple as that.

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Fili All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: DeAndre Hopkins' hair Age: 16 Posts: 504 Rep Power: 3040	Re: Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year Antonio Smith had an ankle injury and was probable. __________________ "When you expect it," Texans defensive end J.J. Watt said candidly as he stood at his locker, "you don't need to celebrate it."

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Rey Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,645 Rep Power: 46112	When we made the merciless pick A thought actually popped into my head that it was a panic move. Like they were expecting someone else to be there but when they weren't they panicked and picked merciless. I've been against that pick since it was first announced and I could never understand it. He had good numbers in college, but I when I watched the film he had 0 burst, was not aggressive. Didn't play with a lot of passion. He does have a decent motor, but to me that's his best attribute. The few times I've seen merci in the game he's looked worse than he did in college. I honestly expected more out of barwin. But after watching him this season I'm honestly ready to see Braman. I'm pleased with reed. He has played his position well. He is the solb and he sees a lot of runs at him. Barwin is the wolb and is supposed to be your sack guy. He looks rather regular.

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DX-TEX Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 11486	Re: Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year Barwin needs to stop focusing on being a hipster ********* and blogging for the Houston Press and focus on actually showing up for games again.

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Mr teX Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Everyone Wants The Throne Posts: 6,262 Rep Power: 11378	Re: Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year Barwin is trash....dude hasnt been a factor all season

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fiasco west Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,770 Rep Power: 3968	Re: Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year Wade is going to have to do something. Cushing would rush some too though. Really this is the only game our pass rush has looked bad and frankly I think Wade called a scared game today. Also Barwin sucks.

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Luv_ya_blue 1%er Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Beaumont, TX Age: 37 Posts: 3,891 Rep Power: 21294	Re: Besides Watt, D-line simply just not getting done this year Would very much like to see Brahman get into the mix. The kid really brings the hat. Intensity is what we need badly right now. Would be nice to have somebody other than JJ come to play some football. __________________ Special Thanks to False Start for the awesome sig! U Rock!

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