I Still Dont Trust the KUBIAK & SCHAUB Regime

[buddyboy]

Originally Posted by GP

You see me going to great lengths to pump sunshine on a certain player here?

A coach?

Owner?

GM?

I keep it pretty real, yeah. If the guys do good, I shout out propers. If guys dog it or aren't hacking it...yeah, I call that to too. I can go from being KJ's biggest critic to admitting he has proven me wrong and has grown over the past 3 years as a lot of posters said he would. Kubiak might be growing, too, but little setbacks make me wonder.

My highest opinion of a player is JJ Watt. I see good in lots of other players too. I root for Arian even though I think his personality is quirky or whatever. He's on MY team. So that's that.

As far as Kubiak, you damn straight there's some uber loyalists. And they don;t like their guy getting dusted up. That's their prerogative, but they can't sit there and condescend either, IMO. We all in dis boat tuh-gether, my bruther. As buyers of entertainment, we should be able to make harsh criticism on the product...but all of us here should try and be a little bit more nicer to one another because we're all on the same level. That's my whole case. I get personal when someone gets personal with me first.

Your perception of the "reality" that people are pumping sunshine isn't fact though. People get labeled as Kubiak loyalists for defending playcalling, and people get labeled as haters for complaining about "playing not to lose".

Personally, I fall on one side, and it's not bashing "haters" when I make the argument that running on 2nd and 10 or running with 2 minutes left in the game isn't playing scared, it's playing smart.

It's the same way you feel. You feel people are making you out to be a hater for voicing your opinion. But you're making other people out to be "sunshine pumpers" for voicing theirs.

[ItsMyFault]

My biggest critique of Kubiak is not using Andre in the RZ, especially with one on one match ups. More times than not, Andre will win one on one coverage on a jump ball. We haven't really needed to use Andre much to win games thus far, but I just think Kubes needs to start using his other star more.

[utahmark]

Originally Posted by ItsMyFault

My biggest critique of Kubiak is not using Andre in the RZ, especially with one on one match ups. More times than not, Andre will win one on one coverage on a jump ball. We haven't really needed to use Andre much to win games thus far, but I just think Kubes needs to start using his other star more.

I don't think that is Andre's strength. When TJ was in last year he tried to use him as a security blanket and would just throw the ball in Andre's direction, did'nt work out to well.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by GP

Kubiak is meddling. Dennison supposedly is the OC, but we know from direct quotes by Kubiak himself that he intervenes and can change calls if he wants. He's a helicopter OC, always hovering over the situation and ready to drop rope and repel to the action so he can save the day.

What an absurd criticism. This is Kubiak's offense and he is the one who will be held responsible for how it runs. But no you want to have your cake and eat it too - tell him to get out and still hold him responsible.

Lot's of head coaches call plays on one side of the ball and even hover around the other side. They don't carry those Denny's menus to shoo flies away.

[Marcus]

Originally Posted by LikeMike

I think the thing that`s angering some are people, that just seem to wait for something bad to happen, so they can say I told you so (like it was with KJ for a long time - heck maybe it still is). I am not saying that you are one of those people.

[DexmanC]

Well. Over the years, I've been as vocal as anybody about this issue.

I don't trust the Kubiak & Schaub regime alone, but I DO trust the
Kubiak & Schaub regime WITH the Wade Phillips & Vance Joseph
combination. Phillips and Joseph have almost removed them memory
of Eli Manning choosing to throw the ball on every down to end the game,
because he felt he could get more by throwing it than running the clock
out with a 3 score lead.

In other words, it's working for now, so I ain't trippin.'

[Norg]

what NFL team fan really truest there regemine when things are so up and down


but u know what U just got roll with it cross your fingers and hope Luck comes our way thats all we can do LOL

THAT AND GO NUTS SUNDAY AND CHEER VERY LOUD AND get some False starts going !!!!!!!!!!

[ThaShark316]

I'm just getting a seat in here so I can say I posted in this thread BEFORE the Texans won Super Bowl XLVII.

[ObsiWan]

Alright I-Cak. Where IS ya boy??
He came in - as a newbie - and threw a turd in the punchbowl and hasn't been seen since.
You said be nice to him, so I was civil.
but I wanna know....

Who WAS that REALLY??

[Surreal McCoy]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

The same guy whose offense won a couple of Super Bowls.



That's frequently the best time to run and the worst time to pass. Doesn't bother me at all. If you've got a runner that can pick up 5-6 yards on a second down run and put you in position to pick up the 1st down, do it. No need to get all 10 yards on 2nd down.



I don't know. Do you think that might be because Ben fumbled the ball and almost cost us the Denver game or because he's been injured?



Because they're just the best guys at their position that we have on the team? Are you stuck in 2010 with Kareem Jackson? Cause... he's a good CB now. And Kevin, he's playing really well this year.



Strange thing is, Joe isn't even his guy.



Jeez. What's a guy got to do? Lead the league in passing? Oh, yeah, right, he's already done that. Throw for the 6th most yards in a single season ever (by 2010 standards)? Oh, yeah, he did that. Put us in position to win game after game in the 4th quarter? Oh, yeah, he's done that... even if the defense pissed it away or someone dropped a pass.



From your post, it's pretty obvious that you're straight out lying. You need to be honest, at least with yourself. You don't like Kubiak and you don't like Schaub. Doesn't matter who they beat or don't beat. Doesn't matter what record they get.

You don't like them and so you're going to find reasons to not like them. You say you like the team but you don't like the main players and the coach. And I'd guess you'd probably prefer that we go on a losing streak so we could get rid of them and get some guys in here that you do like.

I like to win. I like coaches that win games. We haven't won enough here and I would have fired Kubiak a couple of years ago even though I've defended him over the years.

Do you know what a killer instinct is? Pounding the rock over and over and throwing short passes and getting just enough yards to get a first down and going on long assed drives that grind down the clock when you're up on someone. THAT'S a killer instinct.

There aren't a lot of coaches who'll get up on an opponent and then keep slinging the ball around. It's not because they're gutless. It's because coaches who do that don't keep their jobs very long. You lose a lot of games you should have won when you do that.

The thing about guys like Belichick and Parcells is that they aren't the risk takers some people seem to perceive them as. They will occasionally take calculated risks but normally, if they have the chance, they'd call plays just like Kubiak does. Because it wins games. And sometimes when Belichick takes risks, it's because he doesn't trust his defense and some of those risks have backfired and lost him games he should have won.

But none of that really matters to you. Because you just don't like the guys we've got.

And that's OK. Maybe we will go on a big losing streak and you'll get to say "I told you I didn't trust these guys."

You must spread some reputation around before giving to The Pencil Neck again.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

You know that I'm not a fan of Kubiak, but I'm damn sure enjoying the ride. I've been really trying to stay away from the critical side of Kubes, but man threads like these keep begging to pull me back in. Lol!

I think I'll leave now before i end up in a long winded debate.

C'mon Tex! ya gotta use the visual if you're gonna reference the quote...

[Double Barrel]

I Still Dont Trust the NOOBS and NOOB posts

[DaTruthExplodes]

I stand firm by my OP.

Thanks to those who gave me green in support and said they agreed with me. I know im not the only one who feels this. This 5-0 record really has allowed Kubiak to bury a lot of skeletons in his closet. People seem to want to forget that the majority of texan fans wanted kubiak gone. Now he's reborn as a offensive guru.

Even last year, we could have beaten baltimore if kubiak leaned on Foster more than yates. Kubiak lost that game for us.

Good coaching or bad coaching will always stand out in the playoffs.

Nevertheless, i know the deal. Kubiak is a native houstonian and has some solid credentials (thanks elway) that allows kubiak religious idolatry from a lot of houstonians.

we lost cushing but if we dont lose anybody else significant, Kubiak & Schaub will have no excuses if they flame out in the playoffs.

[Vinny]

if your stuck on labels, Kubiak is this or that. I just think he's coaching a hell of a team right now...a team he built. I like where we are at. All this other debate is drama, so I'll leave that to the dramatic.

[ThaShark316]

Originally Posted by DaTruthExplodes

I stand firm by my OP.

Thanks to those who gave me green in support and said they agreed with me. I know im not the only one who feels this. This 5-0 record really has allowed Kubiak to bury a lot of skeletons in his closet. People seem to want to forget that the majority of texan fans wanted kubiak gone. Now he's reborn as a offensive guru.

Even last year, we could have beaten baltimore if kubiak leaned on Foster more than yates. Kubiak lost that game for us.

Good coaching or bad coaching will always stand out in the playoffs.

Nevertheless, i know the deal. Kubiak is a native houstonian and has some solid credentials (thanks elway) that allows kubiak religious idolatry from a lot of houstonians.

we lost cushing but if we dont lose anybody else significant, Kubiak & Schaub will have no excuses if they flame out in the playoffs.

Seeing as Arian's LONGEST gain in the 2nd half was 8 yards and that was on the first 2nd half drive for us, I couldn't disagree more. BAL adjusted and stuffed the run in the second half.

[sbalderrama]

Kubiak + Schaub when together have won 10 straight games. What more do you want?

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by DaTruthExplodes

People seem to want to forget that the majority of texan fans wanted kubiak gone.

Originally Posted by DaTruthExplodes

Nevertheless, i know the deal. Kubiak is a native houstonian and has some solid credentials (thanks elway) that allows kubiak religious idolatry from a lot of houstonians.

The above two statements within the same post are contradictory.

Which is it? If there was "religious idolatry" of Kubiak, then how could "majority of texan fans wanted kubiak gone"?

We get it. You don't like the 5-0 Texans. Seems to me that you come here to argue, not discuss.

Enjoy your visit.

[utahmark]

Originally Posted by DaTruthExplodes

I stand firm by my OP.

Thanks to those who gave me green in support and said they agreed with me. I know im not the only one who feels this. This 5-0 record really has allowed Kubiak to bury a lot of skeletons in his closet. People seem to want to forget that the majority of texan fans wanted kubiak gone. Now he's reborn as a offensive guru. Even last year, we could have beaten baltimore if kubiak leaned on Foster more than yates. Kubiak lost that game for us.

Good coaching or bad coaching will always stand out in the playoffs.

Nevertheless, i know the deal. Kubiak is a native houstonian and has some solid credentials (thanks elway) that allows kubiak religious idolatry from a lot of houstonians.

we lost cushing but if we dont lose anybody else significant, Kubiak & Schaub will have no excuses if they flame out in the playoffs.

Even when people were wanting Kubiak gone I don't think there were any reasonable people who did'nt think he was an offensive guru. A lot of credible people on this board questioned whether he was a good head coach but if you don't consider Gary a good offensive guy then you have lost me.

[Texanmike02]

Originally Posted by DaTruthExplodes

I stand firm by my OP.

Well I'm glad to read that.

Thanks to those who gave me green in support and said they agreed with me.

I'm sure your mother is proud of you.

I know im not the only one who feels this. This 5-0 record really has allowed Kubiak to bury a lot of skeletons in his closet. People seem to want to forget that the majority of texan fans wanted kubiak gone. Now he's reborn as a offensive guru.

I don't think you want to be wrong. There is nothing worse than a fan that roots against their team "so he can be right". Oh you will complain about losing I'm sure but I bet that if we keep winning you will disappear. You're the kind of guy that complains that he just had to win the smallest lottery.

Even last year, we could have beaten baltimore if kubiak leaned on Foster more than yates. Kubiak lost that game for us.

Kubiak lost the game for us? No. We were not at full strength. Tell me, do you credit Kubiak with winning the game at all? Did you notice the adjustments that Balt made in the second half? Do you really think we should have run Foster more? No, you just need to make up something to dig in and maintain your point.

Good coaching or bad coaching will always stand out in the playoffs.

What kind of stupid statement is that. Will it not stand out in the regular season? Does average coaching stand out too? Do you blame Harbaugh for Balt's loss in the playoffs?

Nevertheless, i know the deal. Kubiak is a native houstonian and has some solid credentials (thanks elway) that allows kubiak religious idolatry from a lot of houstonians.

"thanks elway"? Really? Elway won two superbowls? ACTUALLY it was this undrafted RB that won those superbowls. Who's running game did that? How successful has shanny been since Kubes left? Oh. Ok.

And these are the Texans. If you want to root for a lovable loser I suppose you move to the windy city and follow baseball. Ever actually been to Houston? We worship winning. We don't care who it is. Some of us think someone can win before they start showing signs of it.

we lost cushing but if we dont lose anybody else significant, Kubiak & Schaub will have no excuses if they flame out in the playoffs.

And unless the Texans win the SB you get to ***** and moan and say you were right. How convenient. Even under the best circumstances 1 in 32 chance that a team wins the superbowl.

Mike

[Buffi2]

Originally Posted by DaTruthExplodes

I stand firm by my OP.

Thanks to those who gave me green in support and said they agreed with me. I know im not the only one who feels this. This 5-0 record really has allowed Kubiak to bury a lot of skeletons in his closet. People seem to want to forget that the majority of texan fans wanted kubiak gone. Now he's reborn as a offensive guru.

Even last year, we could have beaten baltimore if kubiak leaned on Foster more than yates. Kubiak lost that game for us.

You are the first person to go on my ignore list. What you have to say isn't worth the time it takes to read.