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Old 10-11-2012   #41
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Who knew that Patrick Ewing was a member at TexansTalk?

Slauson has made over $2 million in his 4 years in the NFL. That's a little more than the paycheck-to-paycheck crowd pull in. And $10,000 is 1% of Slauson's $1 million salary for 2012. While 1% isn't nothing (I would notice it out of my salary), it is certainly something he can easily afford and likely won't impact Slauson's playing style.
Who knows, he probably has two ex-wives & three Lambos. I'm not saying I know for a fact, but guys who got paid millions are broke shortly after leaving the game, Ricky Williams & VY just to name a few knuckleheads relatively recently.

Dude probably has a $15,000 mortgage & three $1300 car notes.
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The bigger picture is that the NFL should make it illegal to block or tackle at the knees from the side and the player you are aiming at does not see you.
So you want blockers and tacklers to judge whether or not a guy sees them everytime they hit a guy?

Just say no more going low on anyone.
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I think it would depend on the reputation of the player, or if there were previous infractions.
So you think that if the NFL thought a player was being malicious or dirty they'd go light on them since it was their first infraction?

That's ridiculous.

If the NFL looked at footage and determined that yes a player was being dirty they'd punish then accordingly.

They didn't feel like that in this case and neither do I.

But those who choose to continue on with the belief that all of our players' fines aren't warranted and all those who oppose us should have been punished more can go ahead and believe that.
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Old 10-11-2012   #44
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So you think that if the NFL thought a player was being malicious or dirty they'd go light on them since it was their first infraction?

That's ridiculous.
No your position is blatantly wrong, but keep sticking with it. Players like Harrison who are repeat offenders have gotten hit with heavier fines for lessor offenses because they are repeat offenses.

The contrast between the fines on the two Broncos LB's demonstrates this. One on a player with no track record - barely more than this fine. One on a player who was flagged the week before - much larger discipline.

There are all sorts of missed calls each week and the vast majority receive no action by the NFL. The NFL could have easily sat on this non-flagged play and done nothing if they agreed with you. They didn't. Get over it.
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I wouldn't if I was him.

I don't think he had any malice behind the block at all, but it was certainly illegal.
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No your position is blatantly wrong, but keep sticking with it. Players like Harrison who are repeat offenders have gotten hit with heavier fines for lessor offenses because they are repeat offenses.

The contrast between the fines on the two Broncos LB's demonstrates this. One on a player with no track record - barely more than this fine. One on a player who was flagged the week before - much larger discipline.

There are all sorts of missed calls each week and the vast majority receive no action by the NFL. The NFL could have easily sat on this non-flagged play and done nothing if they agreed with you. They didn't. Get over it.
No you are wrong as per usual when it comes to this particular subject.

We are talking about an initial transgression. Harrisions fines have escalated as a result of his blatant disregard for the rules Aka the NFL determined that there was actual malice or dirtiness behind his hits.

You too trying to argue that the NFL would see a hit, determine there was intent to injure or an element of dirtiness, and only fine the player 10,000 dollars....the "standard fine for a block like that"?

Stop it. That sounds ridiculous X2.

The NFL didn't think there was anything other than an illegal block.

A track record would *ding ding* indicate that there is probably intent or at the very least disregard.

And on top of all that you are either lying or just ignorant to say that there are plays like this that go unflagged and in fined by the NFL all the time. Please.

Do more research. The NFL regularly goes back and fines players for illegal hits. Even ones not resulting in any injury what so ever.

Monday night football. Everyone is watching.

10,000 as a fine says exactly what I believe. The block was illegal, dangerous and should not be done....BUT there was no dirty intent.
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You too trying to argue that the NFL would see a hit, determine there was intent to injure or an element of dirtiness, and only fine the player 10,000 dollars....the "standard fine for a block like that"?

Stop it. That sounds ridiculous X2.
I don't think the NFL tries to "determine" if there was intent or not. I would have to believe they would need to at least talk to the player before they make that determination.

1st offense = "standard fine"
2nd offense = more than "standard fine"
3rd offense = more than more than "standard fine"

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The NFL didn't think there was anything other than an illegal block.

A track record would *ding ding* indicate that there is probably intent or at the very least disregard.

10,000 as a fine says exactly what I believe. The block was illegal, dangerous and should not be done....BUT there was no dirty intent.
$10,000 to me says they didn't see any previous behavior, they don't believe there will be a repeat offense. Look, if you were right, the NFL would have fined David Stewart more than $7,875 :
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& the NFL would have been leveling fines out the wazoo on Vilma, Smith, & the rest of that Bounty bunch... but there are many hits, illegal hits, malicious hits that go unfined.
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That's just pure BS!! JMO!

Just curious guys! How much money will Cush lose not being able to finish the year? Any at all? Is there an incentive bonus he will lose? Just wondering.
I think as long as the injury happened while "at work" as opposed to a car wreck, players receive full salary. He would probably get paid a SB bonus but would miss out on personal achievement bonuses. The last sentence is an educated guess, the first sentence is 99% for sure.
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Gee, so happy he got fined 10k. That'll certainly make up for the quarterback of our defense being out for the year.
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I think as long as the injury happened while "at work" as opposed to a car wreck, players receive full salary. He would probably get paid a SB bonus but would miss out on personal achievement bonuses. The last sentence is an educated guess, the first sentence is 99% for sure.
I wonder how much Cush could possibly lose just in a personal achievement bonus. I guess it depends on how his contract is structured, but, in Cush's case, I bet he's out a hell of a lot more than $10,000! We have 11 more games, not counting any playoff games, and with Cushs ability to make plays this injury could cost him BIG bucks!! Just wondering about this! Not that familiar with how contracts are structured.
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