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Old 10-10-2012   #41
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Default Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone

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unsubstantiated rumor. it's likely marciano wanted him, but to say it was solely joe's pick is an opinion that's being presented as fact.
It's a stretch. But listening to Kubiak everytime he fielded questions during the preseason about Holliday, he didn't seem as excited as everyone else about the possibility of him being on the team. He always followed up positive points about Holliday with things about him having to be able to play within the offense or showing more.
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Old 10-10-2012   #42
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Default Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone

Ruud is only 29 years old, and started falling off 2 years ago at age 27. Did he have an undisclosed injury? Did he just forget how to diagnose plays and tackle? Seems kind of odd, if you ask me.
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Like anything in life, you can get burnt out. That may be the case with Ruud. He was on some bad teams for a long time. And who knows what went on in the locker rooms.

What I know is that he is coming into the ideal situation that any defensive free agent would want to come into. A dominant defense, for a superbowl contending team, coached by one of the greatest defensive minds in the business, who has a "play to your strengths" mindset with his players.

Everyone on our defense has bought into what wade phillips is selling. When Ruud comes in..he is going to be surrounded by guys who are of one mind. They will be confident and they will welcome him as a teammate.. they will expect his best, and he will give it because he is gonna be drinking the koolaid too.

Personally.. im excited. Ruud used to be a pro bowl caliber ILB. We KNOW he had that ability in him. If he still has it.. this is the scenario that will bring it back to the surface.
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Default Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone

In looking at the timeline, it looks like he may have been caught up in the housecleaning that went on once Chucky was fired. Maybe he just hasn't caught on with a new defense yet.
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Default Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone

Good. Holliday should have been gone by week two.
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Ruud is only 29 years old, and started falling off 2 years ago at age 27. Did he have an undisclosed injury? Did he just forget how to diagnose plays and tackle? Seems kind of odd, if you ask me.
Several injuries in the last few years.

I've already posted a link somewhere.
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Default Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone

Cutting Holliday was a good move but I don't understand picking up Ruud, a guy who's obviously not that good and this will be his 4th team in 3 yrs.. Guys like Bentley, Adibi, and Louiseau are all available and have played well for us in the past. Louiseau and Adibi are still young too.
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I'm gonna hope and pray this Ruud kid has a spark left in him! Our team better inject some Houston Texans PRIDE in him quick!
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It's a stretch. But listening to Kubiak everytime he fielded questions during the preseason about Holliday, he didn't seem as excited as everyone else about the possibility of him being on the team. He always followed up positive points about Holliday with things about him having to be able to play within the offense or showing more.
I could have sworn I heard Kubiak say that Joe petitioned to draft him...
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I could have sworn I heard Kubiak say that Joe petitioned to draft him...
Yeah I definitely agree that it's probably the case. My "stretch" comment was referring to my own observations about Kubiak's attitude about having Holliday.
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I could have sworn I heard Kubiak say that Joe petitioned to draft him...
Marciano: I didn't jump on the table in the 5th for him for nothing. It's kind of rare to see a kicker go in the 5th round.

Q: How hard did you have to fight for him?

Marciano: It was a battle, but everybody ended up on board... He kicked the ball 55 yards [through the goal post and it was three-quarters the way up the pole.]
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Marciano: I didn't jump on the table in the 5th for him for nothing. It's kind of rare to see a kicker go in the 5th round.

Q: How hard did you have to fight for him?

Marciano: It was a battle, but everybody ended up on board... He kicked the ball 55 yards [through the goal post and it was three-quarters the way up the pole.]
I'm lost..... Are y'all talking about the same player?
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I'm lost..... Are y'all talking about the same player?
No, they're not. One is talking about Holliday, the other Bullock.
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I'm lost..... Are y'all talking about the same player?
Oops, maybe not. Thought this was the "Fire Joe..." thread, my bad.
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Oops, maybe not. Thought this was the "Fire Joe..." thread, my bad.
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No really guys, if Ruud is seeing snaps as a starter we are effing hosed. Do not expect much of anything from this signing, instead, equate it to the signings of Garcia and Delhomme last year when Schaub went down.
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No really guys, if Ruud is seeing snaps as a starter we are effing hosed. Do not expect much of anything from this signing, instead, equate it to the signings of Garcia and Delhomme last year when Schaub went down.
Exactly. Ruud is coming here to be a backup LB. Nothing more, nothing less. Dobbins will take Cushing's spot in the lineup.
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Ruud is only 29 years old, and started falling off 2 years ago at age 27. Did he have an undisclosed injury? Did he just forget how to diagnose plays and tackle? Seems kind of odd, if you ask me.
At the beginning of last season he dealt with a knee strain injury which did not turn into a chronic problem. He also developed a compensatory groin problem which resolved with his knee injury. His major problem was a shoulder injury that single-handedly took away his performance and continued to worsen until he was placed on IR. He actually underwent shoulder scope surgery this past January. He has had no recurrent knee or groin problems reported to date, and he was seen diving for balls throughout the preseason.........evidently fully recovered from his shoulder surgery. For the 4 years prior to his year with the Titans, he was a "tackling machine"........83,102,107,85 tackles per year respectively. Even with the Titans entirely injury-filled tour, in 9 games he accumulated 47 tackles.........extrapolated to a 70 tackle year.

Barret could definitely be that unexpected "gift." It wouldn't surprise me at all if he were rotated somewhere along the line with Dobbins. Dobbins more for the run and Rudd for the coverage (for which he proved himself to be more than adequate even in his lame duck year).
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Expected the release of Holliday. Just don't understand the White signing.
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