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All Encompassing Fire Joe Marciano

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Ryan

THIS YEAR
He's got to go. I've never seen a more undisciplined unit on returns and our coverage has now given up two return TDs this season. When multiple players get multiple blocks in the back called per game, that boils down to the coaching. Has to be the most overrated coach we have and I have no idea why he's still employed. You'd think coaching someone to not block in the back would be a day one drill in training camp. Not to mention Holliday is not really helping his case.

Anyway I'm happy with the win, but it's definitely my top complaint from today.
 
Ryan said:
He's got to go. I've never seen a more undisciplined unit on returns and our coverage has now given up two return TDs this season. When multiple players get multiple blocks in the back called per game, that boils down to the coaching. Has to be the most overrated coach we have and I have no idea why he's still employed. You'd think coaching someone to not block in the back would be a day one drill in training camp. Not to mention Holliday is not really helping his case.

Anyway I'm happy with the win, but it's definitely my top complaint from today.
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I agree with you. Holliday has no other job than to return kicks and he hasn't done anything yet. I'm giving them to the bye week. We probably have the worst special teams unit in the NFL
 
Ryan said:
He's got to go. I've never seen a more undisciplined unit on returns and our coverage has now given up two return TDs this season. When multiple players get multiple blocks in the back called per game, that boils down to the coaching. Has to be the most overrated coach we have and I have no idea why he's still employed. You'd think coaching someone to not block in the back would be a day one drill in training camp. Not to mention Holliday is not really helping his case.

Anyway I'm happy with the win, but it's definitely my top complaint from today.
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Yeah, special teams have been in a steady decline for a few years now. At one time the Texans had a very good special teams unit under Marciano but it's been a long time since I've watched a kickoff or return without being scared.
 
It's been awful. Utterly awful. Hate to see the need to fire anyone when the team is 5-0, but it's best to nip this in the bud.
 
hradhak said:
I agree with you. Holliday has no other job than to return kicks and he hasn't done anything yet. I'm giving them to the bye week. We probably have the worst special teams unit in the NFL
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Nah, Detroit's is worse. The Thanksgiving game is going to be fun.
 
Marciano is the last original Texan we have left, and I've been trying to hold on to that, but, the truth is: he's got to go. Sorry, coach Joe. it's been a great run, we appreciate your work, but we have to move into another direction.
 
The answer to the title of this thread is NEEDS TO BE FIRED.

Ever since they changed the wedge rules the PR/KR teams have stunk.

And this doesn't even speak to the stench that are the coverage teams.

Why are Holiday/Keo on the team. They contribute net to nothing.
 
steelbtexan said:
The answer to the title of this thread is NEEDS TO BE FIRED.

Ever since they changed the wedge rules the PR/KR teams have stunk.

And this doesn't even speak to the stench that are the coverage teams.

Why are Holiday/Keo on the team. They contribute net to nothing.
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I was gonna make it the "All Encompassing Fire Joe Marciano" thread but i screwed the pooch.
 
Ryan said:
He's got to go. I've never seen a more undisciplined unit on returns and our coverage has now given up two return TDs this season. When multiple players get multiple blocks in the back called per game, that boils down to the coaching. Has to be the most overrated coach we have and I have no idea why he's still employed. You'd think coaching someone to not block in the back would be a day one drill in training camp. Not to mention Holliday is not really helping his case.

Anyway I'm happy with the win, but it's definitely my top complaint from today.
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We blocked in the back on like 10 returns per game last year.......
 
houstonspartan said:
Marciano is the last original Texan we have left, and I've been trying to hold on to that, but, the truth is: he's got to go. Sorry, coach Joe. it's been a great run, we appreciate your work, but we have to move into another direction.
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Is there a Wade Phillips of ST's out there?
 
Our coverage unit is awful.
Our return unit is awful.
Our kickoffs are rarely touchbacks.

The only strength of our game is FGs and punting
 
man i was about to start the *****Offical FIRE Joe Marciano thread *****


Our ST have not only been bad this year but for at least 4 years HE HAS GOT TO GO
 
steelbtexan said:
The answer to the title of this thread is NEEDS TO BE FIRED.

Ever since they changed the wedge rules the PR/KR teams have stunk.

And this doesn't even speak to the stench that are the coverage teams.

Why are Holiday/Keo on the team. They contribute net to nothing.
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In all fairness, Keo did recover the onside kick the Jets tried. So he finally did make a contribution this season.
 
CretorFrigg said:
I concur. Special teams has been atrocious.
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Agreed. I'm not too pleased at all with our poor Special Teams play all year long. But 5-0 is still 5-0. The offense is going to have to step it up though. Hopefully Ben Tate returns against the Packers and we hang up a 30 or 40-burger during the next two games against the Packers and Ravens. Let's get to 7-0 going into the bye week. Check that, let's get to 8-0 by winning our next three games, which are all at Reliant Stadium against the Packers, Ravens and Bills. Some home town cooking in front of a sold-out, energetic and loud Reliant crowd will carry this team to an 8-0 record halfway to the season. Booyah!
 
not only has the coaching been bad put the personal has been bad has well.. whis is dissapointing
 
this wasnt a problem last year.. trindon has to go. he doesnt bring anything. hes much better taking a knee and gettin the 20 instead bringing it out to the 9..
 
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Premier said:
this wasnt a problem last year.. trindon has to go. he doesnt bring anything. hes much better taking a knee and gettin the 20 instead bringing it out to the 9..
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Not sure if sarcasm, but we had the same problem last year. Jacoby was very similar to Holliday. They both always seem to be a fraction of an inch away from muffing a punt or KO return. They both pose for photos before they start running ( :photos: then :jogger: ). The only difference I have seen so far is that Jacoby costs us a playoff game and Holliday hasn't. Lets hope we make a change before Trindon does

Also kick coverage has been terrible. We need a new KR/PR and ST Coach
 
Holiday has taken bad decisions... but the coverage team hasnt given him anything to work with. This is on the coach. You still might debate if Holiday with his bad decisions is worth a rosterspot, but you shouldnt debate based on his bad production.
 
Trindon looked good in camp because he was returning against our weak kick coverage team. That's why everyone on the ST coaching staff thought he was special.

TJ
 
I'm not going to put this all on Joe.

I think some of this is more on the players he has to work with.

I think special teams were better in pre season when he had all those guys we cut out there.
 
Special teams are horrid, putrid, terrible. It's a frigging wonder we are 5-0 with the special teams we have. The frigging kicker seems fairly decent with his FGs, but can't kick the goddamned ball off for any distance. Return teams can't return or stop the return.

It's just plain terrible.
 
The thing that gets me is,

Coach Joe drafts Bullock and the Rams draft the best K I have seen come out of college in a while. Zuerlien (SP?) That guy has a Sea Bass type leg and is super accurate.
 
steelbtexan said:
The thing that gets me is,

Coach Joe drafts Bullock and the Rams draft the best K I have seen come out of college in a while. Zuerlien (SP?) That guy has a Sea Bass type leg and is super accurate.
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and the guy we did draft couldn't kick anything either. Yeah, yeah, he was injured. He still couldn't kick it past the goal line on kickoffs anymore than the clown we have now.
 
speedfreek said:
Trindon looked good in camp because he was returning against our weak kick coverage team. That's why everyone on the ST coaching staff thought he was special.

TJ
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I think Trindon made the team because of his stellar preseason play. However, I'm cringing on every return so far in the regular season.
 
As others have said, Marciano/the return game hasn't been the same since the wedge was outlawed. Marciano hasn't been able to adapt, and thus we return game has been in decline.
 
Errant Hothy said:
As others have said, Marciano/the return game hasn't been the same since the wedge was outlawed. Marciano hasn't been able to adapt, and thus we return game has been in decline.
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Marciano needs to be replaced and that is one reason why.
 
steelbtexan said:
The thing that gets me is,

Coach Joe drafts Bullock and the Rams draft the best K I have seen come out of college in a while. Zuerlien (SP?) That guy has a Sea Bass type leg and is super accurate.
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This really gets me too. Scouting a kicker can not be that difficult.
"Ok, both of you kick off"

Whoever kicks it farther is the winner. We had to know that Bullock couldn't get many TBs

This Zuerlein kid is 100% and already has a 60 yarder under his belt in his rookie year
 
Ryan said:
I was gonna make it the "All Encompassing Fire Joe Marciano" thread but i screwed the pooch.
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Fixed it for you. I thought about starting this same thread last night after Holliday was unable to get it to the 20 yard line over and over again. It reminds me of Einstein's definition of insanity.
 
It's just frustrating watching our offense have to start every drive from the 16 yard line. Joe has got to go. I would love to see Manning return kickoffs again. He brought it.
 
coach Joe has been just okay at best for most of his tenure here. I said something similiar a few years back and seems like a couple of dudes jumped all over me.

Special teams coaches always seemed like the gypsies of the NFL never around for more than a couple of years.
 
i'll just quote myself from earlier this year ...

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it's been talked about for no less than 2 (going on 3) years now. everybody loves coach joe, i certainly do. he needs to be replaced however, as i unpopularly said last year. we have too much talent thrown into our ST unit to be mediocre at best (and a spectacular failure today).
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i swer to u our ST will cost us a game this season weather it be punts returns or Punting or Kicking
 
Norg said:
i swer to u our ST will cost us a game this season weather it be punts returns or Punting or Kicking
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Yep. I can see that happening. It won't be as bad as Kris Brown in the later years (when he cost us multiple games) but I can see ST blowing a game for us this year at some point.
 
Well Holliday is gone, I wished they would of fired Joe Marciano and stayed with Trinton till atleast the bye. Trinton was not looking good at all but I wish him the best.
 
Rey said:
I called out Joe Marciano a few years ago....

I'm not impressed with the work he is doing...
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I was right there with you, my post below after the 2010 season.


TejasTom said:
I think think the defense being historically bad has overshadowed how bad special teams were...

Punt Distance 26th
Punt Coverage 10th

Kick Distance 9th
Kick Coverage 26th

Kick Return 27th
Punt Return 29th

Field postion was terrible all year for both sides of the ball. Improving this will help our defense and offense.
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Jones seems to be doing a reasonable job of directing his punts, he is probably our brightest spot on special teams. Our coverage isn't awful.

Our return game seems to be terri-bad and constantly giving up penalties.
 
Reviving this.

Special teams is once again...atrocious. Martin's a better returner than Holliday, but the blocks still aren't there.

And we still can't cover kickoffs. Get rid of Marciano. His time is over.
 
Firing Marciano would be like firing Chris Palmer two weeks into the 2005 season. It might make you feel good, but it won't substantially change a thing. The guy calling the shots keeps the guy employed. The guy calling the shots knows what the deficiencies are and has given his vote of confidence to Marciano.
 
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