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Old 06-01-2005   #21
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We need to stay away from Robinson... Just what we need, a WR that cant catch the ball.
Koren Robinson has already had a season with over 70 catches and a season with over 60 catches

Corey Bradford has never caught over 50 passes throughout his entire career in the NFL.

Koren Robinson has been in the league for four years and has a total of 213 catches.

Corey Bradford has been in the league for seven years and only has a total of 167 catches

Koren Robinson's game>>>Corey Bradford's entire existance in the NFL

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Bradford's stats

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Old 06-01-2005   #22
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We are fine at receiver. If the offensive line improves in its second year using a zone blocking scheme, which I believe they will, then the Texans passing game will improve significantly just because of that.

The smartest thing the Texans did this offseason was exercising a little patience and self control, actions which included sticking with the same starting OL, drafting a receiver in round four, re-signing bradford (who may be the number four or five receiver by the time the season starts). And all of this contrary to the counsel of the many "experts" here on this board.

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LOL.... I liked that one.
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Koren Robinson has already had a season with over 70 catches and a season with over 60 catches

Corey Bradford has never caught over 50 passes throughout his entire career in the NFL.

Koren Robinson has been in the league for four years and has a total of 213 catches.

Corey Bradford has been in the league for seven years and only has a total of 167 catches

Koren Robinson's game>>>Corey Bradford's entire existance in the NFL

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Robinson's stats
Koren Robinson also had 10 drops in 2003 and added 10 more drops in 2004, whereas Bradford only had 1 drop in 2003 and 3 drops in 2004...As a previous poster said, we don't need receivers that can't catch the ball...
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Koren Robinson also had 10 drops in 2003 and added 10 more drops in 2004, whereas Bradford only had 1 drop in 2003 and 3 drops in 2004...As a previous poster said, we don't need receivers that can't catch the ball...
First, can you provide a link to backup that claim.

Second, excluding this past season, Robinson has had way more balls thrown to him than Bradford, so of course Robinson's drops are gonna seem more inflated than Bradford's drops, because the ball is being thrown to Robinson more than Bradford.

Third, even with those 10 drops you are claiming, Robinson has still caught more passes in a season than Bradford, which I've pointed out in my earlier post.

I don't see how you can even try to comapre these two when Bradford has never caught over 50 passes nor recieved over 1000 yards throughout his entire existance in the NFL.

And why do you keep talking like no WR can drop a pass? You were saying that same stuff about Troy Williamson. Can you give this dropped passes stuff a rest, because all great WRs have dropped some passes.
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First, can you provide a link to backup that claim.

Second, excluding this past season, Robinson has had way more balls thrown to him than Bradford, so of course Robinson's drops are gonna seem more inflated that Bradford's drops, because the ball is being thrown to Robinson more than Bradford.

Third, even with those 10 drops you are claiming, Robinson has still caught more passes in a season than Bradford, which I've pointed out in my earlier post.

I don't see how you can even try to comapre these two when Bradford has never caught over 50 passes nor recieved over 1000 yards throughout his entire existance in the NFL.

And why do you keep talking like no WR drops any passes? You were saying that same stuff about Troy Williamson. Can you give this dropped passes stuff a rest, because all WRs drop passes.
Koren Robinson:

2004

Targets: 67 Drops: 10

2003

Targets: 119 Drops: 10

Corey Bradford:

2004

Targets: 54 Drops: 3

2003

Targets: 62 Drops: 1

I realize all WRs drop passes, but Robinson's drop numbers are ridiculous...Also, Robinson was a #1 WR in Seattle, so of course he's going to have more catches than Bradford, who has always been the second (or third) option...
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Koren Robinson:

2004

Targets: 67 Drops: 10

2003

Targets: 119 Drops: 10

Corey Bradford:

2004

Targets: 54 Drops: 3

2003

Targets: 62 Drops: 1

I realize all WRs drop passes, but Robinson's drop numbers are ridiculous...Also, Robinson was a #1 WR in Seattle, so of course he's going to have more catches than Bradford, who has always been the second (or third) option...
Robinson wasn't the #1

Darrell Jackson is the #1 WR and always has been.

Robinson is the complimentary WR to Darrell Jackson.
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I tend to agree with DRek. Robinson's production isn't enough for me to ignore the baggage that comes along with him. Koren's has alot of talent, but his hands are horrible. The last thing I want is to see the OLine give Carr time to complete a pass to a wide open Robinson only to have him drop the ball. :brickwall
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All those recievers for Seattle except Rice have horrible hands. what's robinson gonna do with a rocket from carr? he'll drop even more passes. Instead of going out and picking up receivers, let out guys develop. i mean gaffney and armstrong will only get better, plus we got some young talent in mathis, starling, and thomas. i say we stay put at wr unless a young quality receiver is available that has a better upside than the 5 i mentioned above.
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Koren Robinson:

2004

Targets: 67 Drops: 10

2003

Targets: 119 Drops: 10

Corey Bradford:

2004

Targets: 54 Drops: 3

2003

Targets: 62 Drops: 1

I realize all WRs drop passes, but Robinson's drop numbers are ridiculous...Also, Robinson was a #1 WR in Seattle, so of course he's going to have more catches than Bradford, who has always been the second (or third) option...
Not jumping on one side or the other here, but just to make the comparison apples to apples--Robinson dropped 10.7 % of the passes thrown his way the last two years, Bradford dropped 3.8%--people need to give that one a rest. I will say this, regardless of whether Robinson is better or not, over the last two years Bradford's hands have not been a problem. Now getting open enough, Carr progressing thru to him, time for Carr.....
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Hey guys I haven't been on all day so can someone fill me in on who got cut?
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not much news yet. westbrook re-signed with philly, thats about it.
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thats it? that sucks I was hoping the Bucs would release some people.
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thats it? that sucks I was hoping the Bucs would release some people.
We'll probably hear more sometime tommorrow. The Bucs have been said to be interested in releasing Steussie, Garner, Stinchcomb, and Walker among others. I doubt you'll see all of them get released, but you could see a few being given their walking papers.
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I would love to see them all go.
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i think the texans should try real hard to sign shelton, boulware, and law.
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I don't see any point in us getting law since we already got DRob, PB, and Faggins
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First off, the last thing the Texans need is a drunk who can't catch 9 yd in route from a QB who's arm doesn't exactly burn the ball to his WRs. Heck, I'm a better WR than Robinson because I don't do drugs and I don't get ridicuously drunk and then go driving. Second, we need to sign Shelton because Wade or whoever is at LT is about as good as a tree stump. Third, we aren't going to sign Law, because we don't have enough cap room to sign a guy who will get injured 6 weeks into the season. Plus, we want speed, and Law has lost a step. Fourth, what we need to do is get a decent TE. Hopefully, we can fiind someone. I'm out.


Yikes! Something tells me you call the Jim Rome show. First of all, Wade plays RT, Wand plays LT and they are both much better than a tree stump. What makes you think Shelton would be an improvement? Is it the hours of film study you've gone through analyzing Shelton? If you don't have the DirecTV Package you couldn't possibly have watched much of the Cardinals since Shelton was drafted. Second, we've got a decent TE. We signed Marcellus Rivers. I'm sure you don't know who he is but your ignorance of him doesn't make him a poor TE. Everyone would like to have Heap, Tony G., or Crumpler... However, there aren't many of those guys out there.
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2004

Targets: 67 Drops: 10

2003

Targets: 119 Drops: 10

Corey Bradford:

2004

Targets: 54 Drops: 3

2003

Targets: 62 Drops: 1

Robinson's career: arrests and drug suspensions (I'm too lazy to research them)

Bradford's career: to my knowledge none of the above


I realize we've starting lowering our "good citizen" policies but Robinson's risk isn't worth the reward IMHO
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