Ben Jones needs to start at RG - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

NastyNate · 09-24-2012

Not even questionable, our running game was on fire with him in. He needs to start.

**kiwitexansfan** · 09-24-2012

I think Ben Jones might be the player that I always hoped Antione Caldwell would become.

NastyNate · 09-24-2012

He did get moved back a good 6 yards on the Tate running play in the first quarter, I'd have to revisit the game tape to determine the exact play, but every other play he was very good at sealing his block.

otisbean · 09-24-2012

He looked terrific for most of the game. Great pick up by the Texans.

**eriadoc** · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan

I think Ben Jones might be the player that I always hoped Antione Caldwell would become.

This. I can't express how disappointed I am in Caldwell. I have only noticed Jones a few times int he run game, burying people. How has he looked on pass plays? Maybe that's why he isn't playing full time yet?

**False Start** · 09-24-2012

I'm with you man. This guy may turn out to be "that guy" that is the surprise of this year's draft.

76Texan · 09-24-2012

Not so fast!

I've always said that I like Ben Jones better as a prospect out of college, but Caldwell's play shouldn't lose him his job yet.

We scored 24 points with Caldwell in the game and 7 with Ben Jones.

Both had a few subpar plays and it should continue to be a good battle to watch.

Ii will depend on how fast Ben Jones can improve; let's hope he can improve sooner rather than later (or slowly or not at all).

Doppelganger · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by 76Texan

Not so fast!

I've always said that I like Ben Jones better as a prospect out of college, but Caldwell's play shouldn't lose him his job yet.

We scored 24 points with Caldwell in the game and 7 with Ben Jones.

Both had a few subpar plays and it should continue to be a good battle to watch.

Ii will depend on how fast Ben Jones can improve; let's hope he can improve sooner rather than later (or slowly or not at all).

I think Jones will continue to improve and will be an OG starter next year. Hopefully big Brandon Brooks can get up to speed and be ready to start next year. Having an interior line of Jones, Myers, and Brooks would be absolutely filthy.

Jackie Chiles · 09-24-2012

I haven't watched that spot closely but I will point out the only time Caldwell stuck out to me was on the Kevin Walter TD. He gets pushed back about 10 feet and the defender is just using him for a punching bag. Watch him closely on that play, it looks like he just wilts, he might have been yelling "uncle."

**eriadoc** · 09-24-2012

If you go back and watch the Schaub INT, Ben Jones is in at RG on that play and he puts his guy on the ground. I just happened to notice it after I asked about his pass pro upthread.

**beerlover** · 09-24-2012

Jones evaluation as starting RG material should be conclusive starting next week against the Titans.

getball2dre · 09-24-2012

I have been very impressed with Jones so far. He's a little undersized for a guard, but he definitely uses it to his advantage to get to the 2nd level so quickly.

NastyNate · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by 76Texan

Not so fast!

I've always said that I like Ben Jones better as a prospect out of college, but Caldwell's play shouldn't lose him his job yet.

We scored 24 points with Caldwell in the game and 7 with Ben Jones.

Both had a few subpar plays and it should continue to be a good battle to watch.

Ii will depend on how fast Ben Jones can improve; let's hope he can improve sooner rather than later (or slowly or not at all).

We also coughed up the ball when Caldwell got beat to the inside on his block and stripped Tate. Neither was perfect but I believe Ben Jones is the better option.

Fili · 09-24-2012

He is a monster. Holds the block and opens up a huge hole.

GP · 09-24-2012

It looked like, on that play, that the DL had stuck his hand into the gut of Tate and basically was able to disrupt Tate's attempt to secure the ball with both hands/arms.

So for me, I blame the OL for missing that assignment so quickly. Great play by the DL, no doubt, but the OL was not helping matters for us.

NastyNate · 09-24-2012

Caldwell also got destroyed on the third and 3 that would have finished out the game in the 4th quarter, not even close. Looks to try and cut block and whiffs.

steelbtexan · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Doppelganger

I think Jones will continue to improve and will be an OG starter next year. Hopefully big Brandon Brooks can get up to speed and be ready to start next year. Having an interior line of Jones, Myers, and Brooks would be absolutely filthy.

This is what I hope the interior of the OL looks like after next yr.

Provided Jones and Brooks keep improving and play up to their talent level.

Hopefully, Brooks is spending this yr learning what it takes to be a pro OL. (Not just talent, which he's loaded with. But discipline and healthy eating habits)

76Texan · 09-24-2012

Once again, I had said during the draft season that I like Ben Jones better than Caldwell as a prospect. I also like Brandon Brooks for the long term better than Caldwell.

But one look at the number of snaps each players played and grade them on each.
Ben also had some poor plays.
He had not done enough to unseat Caldwell from the starting spot, IMHO.

It's all good.
Before the season starts, a few posters didn't think Kubiak will alternate players.
I disagreed.
I didn't see either Newton or Butler as lock; I didn't see either Caldwell or Brooks as lock.
I "promised" that Ben Jones is the heir apparent to Myers at Center (I never said the same thing about Caldwell back then when he was drafted - and Myers wasn't as good then as he is today), but I also believed that he (BJ) can fit well at Guard.
I was glad to see him playing multi-positions in the PS (and did well).

**badboy** · 09-24-2012

Now hold on right there! Sounds like this thread has been saying our Oline guys are rotating. I got clobbered preseason talking about rotating on the offensive line. Castigated I was. "32 NFL teams do not rotate Oline" so why would I even suggest that a rotation would be considered? Dline yes but how dare I suggest an Oline rotation? Wish I could find that thread so I could have a bit of cold revenge. WHAHAHA

GP · 09-24-2012

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Originally Posted by badboy

Now hold on right there! Sounds like this thread has been saying our Oline guys are rotating. I got clobbered preseason talking about rotating on the offensive line. Castigated I was. "32 NFL teams do not rotate Oline" so why would I even suggest that a rotation would be considered? Dline yes but how dare I suggest an Oline rotation? Wish I could find that thread so I could have a bit of cold revenge. WHAHAHA

Rep your way. Good call.

09-24-2012	#1
NastyNate Loudmouth Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Pasadena Posts: 1,129 Rep Power: 9595	Ben Jones needs to start at RG Not even questionable, our running game was on fire with him in. He needs to start. __________________ I intend to live forever... so far so good.

09-24-2012	#2
kiwitexansfan Bring Him Back Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Age: 35 Posts: 7,904 Rep Power: 7242	Re: Ben Jones needs to start at RG I think Ben Jones might be the player that I always hoped Antione Caldwell would become. __________________ All random posts made entirely of smilies courtesy of kiwitexansfanjr -age 4

09-24-2012	#3
NastyNate Loudmouth Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Pasadena Posts: 1,129 Rep Power: 9595	Re: Ben Jones needs to start at RG He did get moved back a good 6 yards on the Tate running play in the first quarter, I'd have to revisit the game tape to determine the exact play, but every other play he was very good at sealing his block. __________________ I intend to live forever... so far so good.

09-24-2012	#4
otisbean Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stowe VT Posts: 492 Rep Power: 2351	Re: Ben Jones needs to start at RG He looked terrific for most of the game. Great pick up by the Texans.

09-24-2012	#6
False Start On # 69 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waiting For the Turning Point! Section: 420 Posts: 12,161 Rep Power: 29017	Re: Ben Jones needs to start at RG I'm with you man. This guy may turn out to be "that guy" that is the surprise of this year's draft. __________________ RIP DIMEBAG DARRELL - 1966-2004 - GETCHA PULL! CLIFF BURTON - 1962-1986 - CLIFF EM' ALL! MMO JWO

09-24-2012	#7
76Texan Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,707 Rep Power: 28459	Re: Ben Jones needs to start at RG Not so fast! I've always said that I like Ben Jones better as a prospect out of college, but Caldwell's play shouldn't lose him his job yet. We scored 24 points with Caldwell in the game and 7 with Ben Jones. Both had a few subpar plays and it should continue to be a good battle to watch. Ii will depend on how fast Ben Jones can improve; let's hope he can improve sooner rather than later (or slowly or not at all).

09-24-2012	#9
Jackie Chiles Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston Age: 29 Posts: 1,800 Rep Power: 2325	Re: Ben Jones needs to start at RG I haven't watched that spot closely but I will point out the only time Caldwell stuck out to me was on the Kevin Walter TD. He gets pushed back about 10 feet and the defender is just using him for a punching bag. Watch him closely on that play, it looks like he just wilts, he might have been yelling "uncle." __________________ "If the bra don't fit, you must acquit"

09-24-2012	#10
eriadoc Texan-American Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 15,576 Rep Power: 71516	Re: Ben Jones needs to start at RG If you go back and watch the Schaub INT, Ben Jones is in at RG on that play and he puts his guy on the ground. I just happened to notice it after I asked about his pass pro upthread. __________________ "Never give to your friend any power that your enemy may one day inherit." - Paul Weyrich

09-24-2012	#11
beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,378 Rep Power: 15075	Re: Ben Jones needs to start at RG Jones evaluation as starting RG material should be conclusive starting next week against the Titans. __________________ 2012 Draft was Mercilus

09-24-2012	#12
getball2dre Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Re: Ben Jones needs to start at RG I have been very impressed with Jones so far. He's a little undersized for a guard, but he definitely uses it to his advantage to get to the 2nd level so quickly. __________________ JJ Watt is a beast

09-24-2012	#14
Fili All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: DeAndre Hopkins' hair Age: 16 Posts: 512 Rep Power: 3040	Re: Ben Jones needs to start at RG He is a monster. Holds the block and opens up a huge hole. __________________ "When you expect it," Texans defensive end J.J. Watt said candidly as he stood at his locker, "you don't need to celebrate it."

09-24-2012	#15
GP Go Texans! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: TEXAS! Posts: 17,747 Rep Power: 50138	It looked like, on that play, that the DL had stuck his hand into the gut of Tate and basically was able to disrupt Tate's attempt to secure the ball with both hands/arms. So for me, I blame the OL for missing that assignment so quickly. Great play by the DL, no doubt, but the OL was not helping matters for us. __________________

09-24-2012	#19
badboy Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Clear Lake Posts: 19,270 Rep Power: 31411	Re: Ben Jones needs to start at RG Now hold on right there! Sounds like this thread has been saying our Oline guys are rotating. I got clobbered preseason talking about rotating on the offensive line. Castigated I was. "32 NFL teams do not rotate Oline" so why would I even suggest that a rotation would be considered? Dline yes but how dare I suggest an Oline rotation? Wish I could find that thread so I could have a bit of cold revenge. WHAHAHA __________________ The sound of marine engines and superchargers soon shall fill the air!

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