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Old 01-14-2014   #1601
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I gotcha, and I think the perception on RG3 and the trade will vary from person to person. I personally think his rookie season was the best we will see from him. The read-option took the NFL by storm in 2012, but the book is out on it now and it kinda seems like a flash in a pan. Also consider that the Skins made the playoffs in the NFC East, which was a fairly weak division.

Either way, the Skins did do a worst to first deal, but then turned around and did the opposite this year in a first to worst (Texans style). Now they have tons of holes on both sides of the ball, and no first round picks for the next couple years, plus a new coach, and now they are in rebuilding mode without the recourses to do so.

But I am kinda getting off topic here...
After this yr they will have their 1st rd pick. There is more to the draft than the 1st rd. I hope Allen/Gruden fix the OL. They need an LG/RT just like the Texans. Richardson in the 2nd and Moses in the 3rd would do the trick. They drafted a S that got hurt and Amerson last yr.
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Vince Young could have been a very good QB, he just didn't want to be.
Don't forget he was drafted by a coach that didn't like him.
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Don't forget he was drafted by a coach that didn't like him.
So it's on Fisher that VY was a petulant child? Fisher preferred losing over VY being successful?
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Can't believe people are already giving up on him. I would trade our number one for him right now.
Only if RG3 agrees to put a muzzle on that father of his.
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Don't forget he was drafted by a coach that didn't like him.
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Don't forget he was drafted by a coach that didn't like him.
This is calling card/excuse trump card for the enduring VY fanboys.

Doesn't matter he was given numerous chances by other teams and coaches and couldn't make it stick. Jeff Fisher is forever to blame to why VYs NFL career was flushed away like a floater in the toilet.
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Can't believe people are already giving up on him. I would trade our number one for him right now.
I'm not giving up on him so much as I never thought he was worth it all to begin with. For me, the gap between him and Luck was huge.
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I'm not giving up on him so much as I never thought he was worth it all to begin with. For me, the gap between him and Luck was huge.
I'm beginning to wonder if Luck is all that .... Yes , the Dolts went to the playoffs but the consensus is that they weren't all that good and despite having some "moments" Luck's statistics weren't all that great.

Completion 60% sure doesn't wow anyone , yards per pass dropped (6.7) from last year while his QBR was 87 which isn't bad .... But Compare those numbers to Schaub since he became a starter and Schuab's were better every year accept this one.
Luck may still get better and Schaub did put up some really good numbers in the past .... but Luck was touted as being a generational talent and I don't think he's come close to those expectations at this point in his career.

That's not to say that I don't agree with the gap between Luck & RG3 as QB's being .... vast. Just that Luck hasn't been all that he was cracked up to be - Another Peyton Manning.
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This is calling card/excuse trump card for the enduring VY fanboys.

Doesn't matter he was given numerous chances by other teams and coaches and couldn't make it stick. Jeff Fisher is forever to blame to why VYs NFL career was flushed away like a floater in the toilet.
Fanboys? I didnt realize we were talking about Star Wars vs. Star Trek here.

There are numerous reasons why VY failed. Just like there were numerous reasons Carr failed. Just because you dont agree with one of the reasons doesn't mean it was not part of the equation.

By your logic it was not being on an expansion team with no talent around him that ruined David Carr, because several other teams and coaches gave him a shot and "couldnt make it stick."
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I'm not giving up on him so much as I never thought he was worth it all to begin with. For me, the gap between him and Luck was huge.
Well we've all been wrong at some point.
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Oakland and Minnesota do not have a second 2014 first rounder though and they are picking even later than Cleveland, so it would require a lot more future round picks. Plus us trading down past Cleveland pretty much says we don't want any of the top flight QBs in this draft, which I in no way see happening.

And NFL front offices don't get their heart set on a player, because they know there is always a chance they won't get him. They are business men, not fans like on a message board.
I agree that the Rams are the best trading partner and the Browns the second because of additional 1st round picks. But the other's can offer packages to compete. They just have to get more creative.

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I'm beginning to wonder if Luck is all that .... Yes , the Dolts went to the playoffs but the consensus is that they weren't all that good and despite having some "moments" Luck's statistics weren't all that great.

Completion 60% sure doesn't wow anyone , yards per pass dropped (6.7) from last year while his QBR was 87 which isn't bad .... But Compare those numbers to Schaub since he became a starter and Schuab's were better every year accept this one.
Luck may still get better and Schaub did put up some really good numbers in the past .... but Luck was touted as being a generational talent and I don't think he's come close to those expectations at this point in his career.

That's not to say that I don't agree with the gap between Luck & RG3 as QB's being .... vast. Just that Luck hasn't been all that he was cracked up to be - Another Peyton Manning.
I will give Luck/RG3 2/3 more yrs to have a team built around them before I can make that judgement. I hope whoever the Texans draft/trade for at QB aren't held to these kinds of standards. (Making the playoffs your rookie/2nd yr isn't enough) There is still a lot of team building for the Rick to do. 2-3 yrs worth and I've got huge doubts that Rick is the man for the job.

BTW, The gap between Luck and RG3 isn't as great as it seems. As rookies the both make the playoffs and 1st rd exits. 2nd yr RG3 gets hurt and the Redskins miss the playoffs, Luck stays healthy and makes the playoffs. I would trade 1-1 for either of them today.

I wish RG3's dad would tone it down a little (RG3 probably wishes the same thing) But as a military lifer I have total respect for RG2 and his right to speak his mind in this politically correct world we live in. Afterall he did lay it all on the line for 30 yrs so we all have the right to speak out when we choose too. This might be a NSZ topic.
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Can't believe people are already giving up on him. I would trade our number one for him right now.
This is a product of the instant gratification group. I feel sorry for whatever QB the Texans draft, because this type of mentality will be prevalent.
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I will give Luck/RG3 2/3 more yrs to have a team built around them before I can make that judgement. I hope whoever the Texans draft/trade for at QB aren't held to these kinds of standards. (Making the playoffs your rookie/2nd yr isn't enough) There is still a lot of team building for the Rick to do. 2-3 yrs worth and I've got huge doubts that Rick is the man for the job.

Luck didn't make the playoffs by himself , football being the ultimate team sport .... You can separate his individual stats from the teams overall success to some degree.
They also had a whole lot of things fall their way and are in a crappy division , Tenn and Jax have been abysmal for several years now & then the Texans fall apart at the seams .... When you can pencil in 5 or 6 W's from within your division , you should make the playoffs.

But with all the hype surrounding Luck , you'd expect him to have put up better numbers than Schaub ... which he hasn't equaled yet other than in the W column.

Another example would be Cam Newton , his statistics have been mediocre but the team won a lot of football games .... mainly due to their improved defensive front while everyone gives the QB all the credit for the W's.
He's in a good situation now but what happens when he's in a situation like Tom Brady this year ..... Can he carry that team ?! I have my doubts.


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This is a product of the instant gratification group. I feel sorry for whatever QB the Texans draft, because this type of mentality will be prevalent.
I definitely don't expect a rookie QB to come in and set the league on fire or even make the playoffs. I pretty much expect a season of sub .500 football .... but after that the expectations rise.
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Fanboys? I didnt realize we were talking about Star Wars vs. Star Trek here.

There are numerous reasons why VY failed. Just like there were numerous reasons Carr failed. Just because you dont agree with one of the reasons doesn't mean it was not part of the equation.

By your logic it was not being on an expansion team with no talent around him that ruined David Carr, because several other teams and coaches gave him a shot and "couldnt make it stick."
David Carr has 2 Super Bowl rings. He may not have been a good starter but he at least made a decent career as a backup. Ol VY with all his talent and skills and "he just wins" couldn't even do that.

Most texas fans realize he was a great college qb but just couldn't make it in the pros. The fanboys believe VY is still gods gift to football and the only reason he isn't playing in the nfl is Jeff fisher screwed him, black balled him and made sure young would never come back
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Only if RG3 agrees to put a muzzle on that father of his.
He needs to put a muzzle on himself first. Dude's always flappin his gums in some form or fashion. His mouth is his worst enemy. Shutup and do your job and you'll be fine
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I fully endorse this idea of making our interest in various high round draft choices public. We have the only guaranteed selection available and there is no reason we shouldn't be the one receiving all the request for trading up.
People trade up to maneuver ahead of a team interested in "their guy"

With the #1 overall, no one can move "ahead" of us.

If anyone wants our pick, it will be because they want to get ahead of St. Louis.
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David Carr has 2 Super Bowl rings. He may not have been a good starter but he at least made a decent career as a backup. Ol VY with all his talent and skills and "he just wins" couldn't even do that.

Most texas fans realize he was a great college qb but just couldn't make it in the pros. The fanboys believe VY is still gods gift to football and the only reason he isn't playing in the nfl is Jeff fisher screwed him, black balled him and made sure young would never come back
#1, David Carr has 1 SB ring, not 2. And is that how you rank players? Their number of SB rings as a backup in which he played zero snaps?
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#1, David Carr has 1 SB ring, not 2. And is that how you rank players? Their number of SB rings as a backup in which he played zero snaps?
No, but I rank a player who failed as a starter but manages to stay employed as a backup for several years and different teams, including a super bowl winner over a guy who failed as a starter and was brought in and cut from several teams including a couple ones who were desperate for a serviceable backup
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