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Old 01-04-2014   #1261
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He consistently holds the ball closer to his ear than the other guys. His throwing motion is smooth. His release is pretty quick. He does a really good job establishing his base when he gets time.

I'm seeing a smaller Cam Newton when I see him play.
If cam was 6'0, he wouldn't be cam. The fact he's 6'5 250 along with his special traits is what makes him special. Manziel when in the pocket has 1 hand on the ball and is very,very low. His delivery is not low,its what he's doing before he delivers. As I said, I like watching him in college,but he plays so off schedule I wouldn't touch him. I hope he plays well where he's drafted.
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Manziel hangin with some hotties from FSU before the NC game...

http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/06/johnny...o-women-video/

Lucky bastard. He better enjoy it now, because they don't make women like that in Cleveland.
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Manziel hangin with some hotties from FSU before the NC game...

http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/06/johnny...o-women-video/

Lucky bastard. He better enjoy it now, because they don't make women like that in Cleveland.
Why bother with Cleveland's meager "talent", Manziel can just "import" his own from home.
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Why bother with Cleveland's meager "talent", Manziel can just "import" his own from home.
Oh yeah, I forgot that travel exists. Thanks for the reminder.

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Manziel is the modern day Joe Namath. It's only right that he plays for the Jets.
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Saban just said that in 40 years of football, JFF is the fiercest competitor he has ever seen.
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Saban just said that in 40 years of football, JFF is the fiercest competitor he has ever seen.
Would be more impressive if the quote had anything to do with playing the position of QB.
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Would be more impressive if the quote had anything to do with playing the position of QB.
I learn so much every time I listen to Saban.
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Would be more impressive if the quote had anything to do with playing the position of QB.
Ironically, if you asked him who was 2nd, he would probably say Tebow. As we know, being a heck of a competitor doesn't make you a good NFL QB.
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Ironically, if you asked him who was 2nd, he would probably say Tebow. As we know, being a heck of a competitor doesn't make you a good NFL QB.
and then again, he might not
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and then again, he might not
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The irrational Manziel hate is so thick on this board you could cut it with a rolling pin.
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The irrational Manziel hate is so thick on this board you could cut it with a rolling pin.
Yep! 99% of his criticism is just hate. People either don't like Manziel the person or they despise the attention that he's drawn.
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Not to jump into the middle of this argument, but I'd like to say my piece here. A&M will likely have 2 offensive players other than Manziel drafted in the top 20 this year. Think about that. How many other offenses can say that they will have 3 players drafted top 20 in the same year? Not many I would bet. That's not even to mention their other OT, who has an outside shot at being a 1st round pick.

They also have three 5-stars (T. Williams, Carson, B. Williams) and a 4-star (Malena) at RB. The reason they don't get the ball isn't a lack of talent, it's by offensive design. The offense is extremely QB-centric. To say otherwise is ignorant or just flat lying.

A&M's 4 RB's combined this year had 279 carries for 1556 yards (5.8 ypc) and 24 TD's. To call that unproductive is asinine. Meanwhile, Manziel had 144 rush attempts and 429 pass attempts. They don't get the ball enough. The problem isn't that his supporting cast is bad (it's not), it's that the offense is so QB-centric that everyone and everything depends on Manziel.

The notion that A&M lacks talent on offense outside of Manziel is absurd.
Totally agree,

When you have a talent like Johnny Football you use him. When will Sumlin ever have even a decent defense?
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Manziel hangin with some hotties from FSU before the NC game...

http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/06/johnny...o-women-video/

Lucky bastard. He better enjoy it now, because they don't make women like that in Cleveland.
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Yep! 99% of his criticism is just hate. People either don't like Manziel the person or they despise the attention that he's drawn.
True, they've bought into the media hype. JM is just doing what every 20 yr old kid dreams of being able to do. Jealousy is a terrible thing.
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Both guys played in the same system where they took the majority of their snaps in the shotgun..

Would u prefer i said blaine gabbert.....or kevin kolb? 1 guy was a 1st rounder the other a 2nd rounder....both guys operated mostly out of the shotgun.

The point i was making was that his little tidbit has zero bearing on whether or not manziel will be successful or not in the nfl...
That's the question, will JM become Case Keenum or Fran Tarkenton.

I lean towards the Tarkenton side.
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As entertaining as manziel is, I couldn't draft him. Just like I couldn't draft tayvon austin or percy harvin. Its not that I wouldn't draft them,its mostly where I have them slotted,someone else would draft them. Manziel is fun,but I see a lot of fumbles,injuries,and firings in his future. Jumping into the los,the way he holds the ball low and with 1 hand in the pocket, and the hits he take. Id rather someone else try to train that bronco.
This is how I feel about Bridgewater.
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That's the question, will JM become Case Keenum or Fran Tarkenton.

I lean towards the Tarkenton side.
there's only 1 Tarkenton and there will never be another. & i'm not saying that b/c Tarkenton was just that good. I'm saying it b/c defensive players and schemes have evolved.

I know Vick was Manziel's football idol growing up, but as good of an athlete as he is, He's not close to the athlete Vick was when he came out. Furthermore, b/c of his idol, The NFL has now become much more adept at containing mobile qbs. In the end, his running & escapability won't matter if he can't beat teams passing the ball. If not, The LSU games are a primer for what's he's gonna see week in, week out in the NFL.


Cleveland better lock up Darryl Bevell as their HC. B/c if they draft him & there's any other coach there, he won't have success. & even if bevell's there will still be long odds.
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