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Old 05-07-2014   #3641
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I'm completely neutral on this a&m/ut rivalry because I went to school in a different country. As a completely impartial observer, I can state unequivocally that the hysteria from the pro-manziel faction massively outweighs the somewhat amused disdain coming from the other camp.
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I agree with both of you. CND is a good poster on this board, that was until his burnt orange butt hurt starting coming out in him. I have NEVER in the history of my time on this board seen him go so overboard to bash a player.

He, and others like him, act as if their word on all things Johnny Manziel is a word from god. In their minds, there is ZERO possibility that Manziel becomes a success in the NFL, and that was the purpose of my post.
Not sure what association you think the good Dr. has with t.u., but that's certainly not where he's coming from. His objections to Manziel are all fact-based and shared by many. It's definitely no stretch to worry about Manziel's potential health in an NFL that can decimate a QB who doesn't run as often and might possess a larger frame to shoulder the load.

While I may disagree with his assessment of certain players, I trust that man with my life. We won't ever all agree / disagree on here and Cloak has shown over time that his assessments are often the only contrarian ones heard...and most often correct. He's not one to sugar-coat.
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Not sure what association you think the good Dr. has with t.u., but that's certainly not where he's coming from. His objections to Manziel are all fact-based and shared by many. It's definitely no stretch to worry about Manziel's potential health in an NFL that can decimate a QB who doesn't run as often and might possess a larger frame to shoulder the load.

While I may disagree with his assessment of certain players, I trust that man with my life. We won't ever all agree / disagree on here and Cloak has shown over time that his assessments are often the only contrarian ones heard...and most often correct. He's not one to sugar-coat.
That's the impression I have of him. I think CnD would have the same opinion/reservations about Johnny if he went to Manziel's first choice of UT and had an identical collegiate career. I can't say the same about some of the other folks here.
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You know being on the other side of this is starting to make me understand a bit of why SOME of the VY lovers were sporting VY jerseys at Reliant. It's almost an 'f you to the jerk posters like Cloak that seem to have nothing better to do than waltz in every thread to bash Manziel. There are many others that do precisely the same thing, with Cloak leading the pack.

I'm not sure I'll wear a Jacksonville jersey but if we pass on Manziel and he goes to Jacksonville, it will be very difficult for me to not laugh in the faces of a bunch of Texans fans and cheer when Manziel leads the Jags to trounce all over the Texans.
Because CND disagrees with you he's a jerk? How very tolerant you are of other people's opinions.

He and I disagree on JM, but he's far from the person you're painting him out to be. I like JM but not at 1-1, give me JM at 1-20. Can you see faults in JM's game or do you have so far up the Maroon sheeps butt that you cant see sunshine. See how does it for a poster to needlessly talk sh!t?
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Anyone still think Manziel is going No. 1?
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IMO Doc is a very solid poster, and I don't think he's a Longhorn. I'm not entirely sure but I think he's part of the Keenum Kult
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You know being on the other side of this is starting to make me understand a bit of why SOME of the VY lovers were sporting VY jerseys at Reliant. It's almost an 'f you to the jerk posters like Cloak that seem to have nothing better to do than waltz in every thread to bash Manziel. There are many others that do precisely the same thing, with Cloak leading the pack.

I'm not sure I'll wear a Jacksonville jersey but if we pass on Manziel and he goes to Jacksonville, it will be very difficult for me to not laugh in the faces of a bunch of Texans fans and cheer when Manziel leads the Jags to trounce all over the Texans.
Although I have watched many select UT and A&M games and players, I have never made it a priority to attend. I have never had a dog in the fight. I have gone to one UT game in my life........and none to A&M. I bleed only RED.....like most real human beings. I was NOT for VY being picked and am not for Manziel being picked......and I have stated my reasons. I insert humor in some of my posts that illustrate my feelings on subjects. When opinions are bantered around here, I expect that there are going to be disagreements. But when one finds the need to insert hateful personal comments to claim their argument, it only reveals an unfortunate underlying pathologic predisposition. "Reconsideration" would be the only word that comes to mind when dealing with such deep-seeded issues.
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You know being on the other side of this is starting to make me understand a bit of why SOME of the VY lovers were sporting VY jerseys at Reliant. It's almost an 'f you to the jerk posters like Cloak that seem to have nothing better to do than waltz in every thread to bash Manziel. There are many others that do precisely the same thing, with Cloak leading the pack.

I'm not sure I'll wear a Jacksonville jersey but if we pass on Manziel and he goes to Jacksonville, it will be very difficult for me to not laugh in the faces of a bunch of Texans fans and cheer when Manziel leads the Jags to trounce all over the Texans.
Jerk posters like CnD?

Just because someone doesn't share your Manzlove doesn't make them a jerk.

And you will laugh when another team beats your so-called team because of one player?

If we traded AJ tomorrow he would become the enemy.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-jacksonville/

Johnny doesnt want to play for the jags and apparently his family doesnt want him to play in Houston.

Shades of ELI.
Doesn't want to play for Jaguars because it's too small of a market???

YGBFKM. What does market size have to do with football?
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It's not about "meeting my expectations". Don't be goofy about it.

It is about the DEFINITION of the concept of fanatic: "a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal"

And get over your own perception of self-importance as a fan.

Football is ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want to try to put more importance in your life over an endeavor that you have no control, input, influence, or whatever, be my guest.

I've been part of running a company for 35 years now, so your rant about running a business is pointless. My company is directly impacted by my actions.

My team, 'eh, not so much.

So go ahead and pout and whine because you perceive that you have "earned some phantom right" as a fan. Go ahead and abandon this franchise as a fan because you didn't get your way. I could not give a shit. I'll be here as a Texans fan, through thick and thin, and while I might not agree with every decision or even be enthusiastic about things, and I might even be extremely cynical, jaded, sarcastic, bitter, disappointed, and/or pessimistic about things sometimes, I still keep all of it in perspective THAT IT IS ONLY ENTERTAINMENT!!!

They play, I watch. I have no delusions about this arrangement. Perhaps you should indulge yourself with that reality check, as well.

Btw, I'm not advocating blindly optimistic koolaid drinking. Criticize all you want. That's what sports talk and this forum is all about. I'm far from a shiny, happy fan.

Just don't tell me that you can root against your team and be a fanatic for that team at the same time. That's just bullshit pretzel logic.
I'm just going to tell you that I am NOT going to be the kind of fan you expect and want people to be. I really don't care if that meets with your approval or not.
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I'm just going to tell you that I am NOT going to be the kind of fan you expect and want people to be. I really don't care if that meets with your approval or not.
lol! I could give a rat's ass what kind of fan you are. I expect nothing of you, and I will certainly not be disappointed in that regard.

psssst, the Texans will NEVER listen to your advice. Deal with it.
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lol! I could give a rat's ass what kind of fan you are. I expect nothing of you, and I will certainly not be disappointed in that regard.

psssst, the Texans will NEVER listen to your advice. Deal with it.
Well then stop telling everyone what you think is an acceptable fan.
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Anyone that roots against their own team because of personnel decisions is not a freakin' fanatic for their team. That is the very definition of fair-weather fan, like it or not.

I understand disappointment, but I will never understand the nature of betrayal. It is akin to screwing around on your wife because she didn't buy the sexy dress you like. And yeah, being a sports fanatic is a deep personal commitment like marriage. Don't get caught up in the metaphor. It's not a marriage, but the commitment and devotion is very similar.

Where are all those VY nut huggers and their bandwagon jerseys today? Buying Browns gear? What bunch of chumps.
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Anyone still think Manziel is going No. 1?
well I am still hoping.
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Well then stop telling everyone what you think is an acceptable fan.
When you stop telling everyone how to run a professional football team....

btw, most folks agree that you cannot be a fanatic of a team and actively root against them. Is that really hard to comprehend for YOU?

It's really a "duh, no shit" obvious thing for most of us.
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You know being on the other side of this is starting to make me understand a bit of why SOME of the VY lovers were sporting VY jerseys at Reliant. It's almost an 'f you to the jerk posters like Cloak that seem to have nothing better to do than waltz in every thread to bash Manziel. There are many others that do precisely the same thing, with Cloak leading the pack.

I'm not sure I'll wear a Jacksonville jersey but if we pass on Manziel and he goes to Jacksonville, it will be very difficult for me to not laugh in the faces of a bunch of Texans fans and cheer when Manziel leads the Jags to trounce all over the Texans.
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When you stop telling everyone how to run a professional football team....

btw, most folks agree that you cannot be a fanatic of a team and actively root against them. Is that really hard to comprehend for YOU?

It's really a "duh, no shit" obvious thing for most of us.
Let's try this novel approach, let everyone be the kind of the fan they want to be without your righteous or disapproving approval. Or any kind of judgement from you for that matter. How unique would that be?
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It was that fans were more of a VY fan than a Texan fan That's why whey wore the jersey.

I just don't see how fans can come into any stadium with root for the Texans and (for example) when VY steps on the field start,then they start rooting for him to beat the Texans just so say "I told you so"

makes no sense to me.

same will go if people start doing the same thing with Manziel

I don't understand it. I am in the mode of I wish such and such will do good until he plays the Texans

Just a random thought here. Bottom line is if the Texans think Manziel is the best for them and they feel he fits in Bob's system they will draft him, if not big whoop. Lets see what they can do with who they got.

kinda like a lot of folks booing the Watt pick. A lot of people are crawdaddin' on their pre draft statements. Lets hope whoever the Texans pick will have an impact
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Let's try this novel approach, let everyone be the kind of the fan they want to be without your righteous or disapproving approval. Or any kind of judgement from you for that matter. How unique would that be?
Yeah Double Barrel.

After-all, Texian is the smartest cat he's ever met.
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Because CND disagrees with you he's a jerk? How very tolerant you are of other people's opinions.

He and I disagree on JM, but he's far from the person you're painting him out to be. I like JM but not at 1-1, give me JM at 1-20. Can you see faults in JM's game or do you have so far up the Maroon sheeps butt that you cant see sunshine. See how does it for a poster to needlessly talk sh!t?
OUCH! That sounds like a red spot on it's way to you.

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