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Stop the presses! Johnny Manziel, who's visiting the Texans today, just went to the bathroom! No. 1!
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St. Louis general manager Les Snead caused quite a stir Monday morning when he said in a radio interview that the Rams have been scouting quarterbacks for the 2014 NFL Draft. Despite sticking with his belief that Sam Bradford was the team's starter going forward, the comments about drafting another signal-caller this year certainly raised a few eyebrows around the league.

Most observers think that means the team will go after somebody on Day 2 or 3 of the draft as insurance for the oft-injured Bradford. But recent momentum seems to be building for the club to take one of the top quarterbacks in the draft class with a first-round pick. NFL Media analyst Daniel Jeremiah, a former scout, said on "Path to the Draft" that he's hearing the team could actually be targeting one of the draft's biggest stars early in the first round.

"Take what you will with this, but this is out there," Jeremiah said. "(NFL personnel) are saying there's legitmate interest between the Rams and Johnny Manziel. There's at least buzz in personnel circles saying do not rule out Johnny Manziel to St. Louis."
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Sweet.. now the interest in the #1 overall has picked up. If you want Manziel, you're going to have to jump St.Louis... come to Houston.
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Sweet.. now the interest in the #1 overall has picked up. If you want Manziel, you're going to have to jump St.Louis... come to Houston.
I do believe that Jeremiah is gullible enough to believe this and and wouldn't be surprised if this rumor came from the Houston Texans.
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Sweet.. now the interest in the #1 overall has picked up. If you want Manziel, you're going to have to jump St.Louis... come to Houston.
sort of makes my trade proposal look pretty good.
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Have we talked about the leadership Manziel displayed during the game against Duke?

His team was getting whupped. Looked like nothing was going right for the fighting Aggies. Mike Evans was obviously frustrated & it showed.

Johnny wasn't perfect. He made as many mistakes as anyone else on the Aggie offense, if not more. I wouldn't doubt that the team gave up hope on the Johnny Magic & it looked to me like they had already resolved to lose that game.

But Johnny wasn't having it. The cameras showed him calming Mike Evans down, getting his mind back into the game. It didn't look like Evans wanted any part of it, he didn't want to talk to Johnny Manziel (maybe he blamed Manziel, who knows?), he turned away from him... but JFF did not give up.

Then we see Manziel talking to the whole team, telling them not to give up. Even though it looked like that game was over (I was ready to turn it off), the 2nd quarter started 21-3 Duke. It looked like Duke found the answer for Manziel & the Aggie defense looked like it had no clue (like they did all year long). But Manziel still believed they could win. Then the team believed they could win. Then they won.

I do not want to draft Johnny Manziel at 1-1, or 2-1. He's the third QB on my list. But I thought that was a very strong showing of Manziel's leadership ability. He got in a guys face, but he wasn't yelling or screaming. He wasn't acting a fool. Same with the rest of the team. He wasn't berating anyone. He wasn't blaming anyone. I'd love to have been able to hear what he was saying.

Like I said, I thought it was very strong. Knowing he was "messing up" just as much as anyone, he still convinced everyone not to give up.

I just don't remember talking about it much.
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I saw that. Now I'm no expert lip reader but I think he was saying don't lose this for me, I'm going to sign with Nike soon and I won't have you pu$$ies messing it up.



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I saw that. Now I'm no expert lip reader but I think he was saying don't lose this for me, I'm going to sign with Nike soon and I won't have you pu$$ies messing it up.



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No, no, no. Wrong. He was telling them "I won't do any more autographs for you tools to sell if we lose this game."
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No, no, no. Wrong. He was telling them "I won't do any more autographs for you tools to sell if we lose this game."
Hehehehe it's fun to pick on Johnny.
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Have we talked about the leadership Manziel displayed during the game against Duke?

His team was getting whupped. Looked like nothing was going right for the fighting Aggies. Mike Evans was obviously frustrated & it showed.

Johnny wasn't perfect. He made as many mistakes as anyone else on the Aggie offense, if not more. I wouldn't doubt that the team gave up hope on the Johnny Magic & it looked to me like they had already resolved to lose that game.

But Johnny wasn't having it. The cameras showed him calming Mike Evans down, getting his mind back into the game. It didn't look like Evans wanted any part of it, he didn't want to talk to Johnny Manziel (maybe he blamed Manziel, who knows?), he turned away from him... but JFF did not give up.

Then we see Manziel talking to the whole team, telling them not to give up. Even though it looked like that game was over (I was ready to turn it off), the 2nd quarter started 21-3 Duke. It looked like Duke found the answer for Manziel & the Aggie defense looked like it had no clue (like they did all year long). But Manziel still believed they could win. Then the team believed they could win. Then they won.

I do not want to draft Johnny Manziel at 1-1, or 2-1. He's the third QB on my list. But I thought that was a very strong showing of Manziel's leadership ability. He got in a guys face, but he wasn't yelling or screaming. He wasn't acting a fool. Same with the rest of the team. He wasn't berating anyone. He wasn't blaming anyone. I'd love to have been able to hear what he was saying.

Like I said, I thought it was very strong. Knowing he was "messing up" just as much as anyone, he still convinced everyone not to give up.

I just don't remember talking about it much.
Great post. Can't imagine describing a guy with leadership abilities like this (reminiscent of all-time greats like Joe Cool, Brett Favre, Johnny U, and Tom Brady) combined with his athletic ability and proven accuracy, and then not want to draft him at either 1-1 or 2-1.

Like I have said before (and multiple people have admitted), add 2 inches and 20 lbs to him, and he is almost unanimously the pick at 1-1. Just seems foolish to me to allow a player like Manziel to slip past at 1-1 over 2 inches and 20 lbs.
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Like I have said before (and multiple people have admitted), add 2 inches and 20 lbs to him, and he is almost unanimously the pick at 1-1. Just seems foolish to me to allow a player like Manziel to slip past at 1-1 over 2 inches and 20 lbs.
Cam Newton wasn't a unanimous pick at 1-1

There are a lot of things to like about Johnny Manziel. That's why he's being considered as a 1st round draft pick. But there are things to not like about Johnny Manziel, that's why he's not a top 10 pick, imo. If I was choosing 8 or 9, I might reach for him, but on his own merit, I don't see him as a top 10 pick.

There are easily 10 other players that I'd rather have & I think comparable QBs are available later. They may not have shown that same level of leadership, or anything remotely electrifying on the field. But there are plenty of QBs in this draft that have shown me the basic requirements needed to win football games at the NFL level.
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TK is saying what I've thought all along. There is not a bigger competitor at the QB position in this draft. The Duke game is just a glimpse at Manziel's career at A&M. He is a leader. The players have said there is no other QB they would rather follow. That says something about a man.

The shot of Johnny on the sideline near the end of the Duke game talking to not only the offense, but the defense -- saying "Take it from them. Take it from them." That was raw passion.

The Texans have NEVER had that on offense. On D, they have fire with Watt and Cushing, but for years, no one has been a vocal leader on offense. Schaub was milquetoast. Carr never had it (of course, he got his face kicked in with a horrible O-line). Andre has always been a lead-by-example type of guy.

OB has said he wants a guy who is a competitor. Manziel fits that. He is the best QB option in this draft. You can point to Teddy's short passing accuracy, but Manziel is quite comparable there. You can talk about Bortles prototypical NFL size, and Manziel doesn't match up there -- but I'd rather have Johnny's intangibles who kicked butt in a major NCAA conference over those guys anytime.
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I'm sorry, I may have let you down if you'd have read a little further. His leadership is a strong suit for him. But he's got weaknesses as well. I'm just trying to tell it like it is.

Leadership, off the chart.

Drive & competitiveness, off the chart.

Plus agility. Plus arm. Plus vision (he sees the whole field). Playmaker.

Then there are the things we don't "know" & have to infer. Can he read a defense? If I'm saying Bison 2 roll (I just learned that the other day), does he know what I'm talking about? Does he know what soft corners are & how routes should adjust for that? Does he know how to set the protections? Like Gruden says... does he know how to solve problems at the LOS?

Johnny admitted he didn't have to do a lot of that at A&M, but he's been learning since the end of the season. Maybe he's shown that he has the ability, it's hard for me to say.

But there are other guys who've been doing it for a long time already; Bridgewater, McCarron, Murray, Garoppolo, Bortles, Mettenberger... and some of those guys have been doing it really well.

They've all got their strong points & weaknesses. Leadership is unquestionably a strength of JFF (imo).
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