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Old 03-29-2014   #3101
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Not to mention that Texas fans were talking crap all year about Manziel doing the "Cashing out" sign but now it's fair game and a "Drake" thing because Strong did it.
Mack Brown has really made them a whiny group. I thought it was hilarious when Strong did it and hilarious that Manziel responded to it. Its all in fun and part of the rivalry. They're on 247 with their panties in a bunch over it. Soft as a baby's bottom.
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Also, any of you that have commented in this thread owe it to yourselves to at least watch Gruden's QB Camp with Johnny Manziel. If you keep the same opinions of Manziel after seeing it, fine. But at least attempt some objectivity and watch his session with Gruden. Pretty much the icing on the cake for me as far as the Texans needing to draft him.
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Also, any of you that have commented in this thread owe it to yourselves to at least watch Gruden's QB Camp with Johnny Manziel. If you keep the same opinions of Manziel after seeing it, fine. But at least attempt some objectivity and watch his session with Gruden. Pretty much the icing on the cake for me as far as the Texans needing to draft him.
I saw and and like the fact he owned up to his mistakes. Didn't shy away from, didn't make excuses, said he did too much and knows he should have done things differently...

I look at like this, if the kid can play, he can play and draft him. If they feel any doubt, trade back, take the player(s) you need and move on...

Either way, gonna be an interesting year....
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Is this how soft our society has gotten where guys can't poke fun at their rivals anymore?
I don't know about society, but as a Horn fan I could give a rat's ass.
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I don't know about society, but as a Horn fan I could give a rat's ass.
It was a damn joke....... Anyone whether they're a Longhorn fan, Aggie Fan, or whatever should be able to laugh at this. If not they need to take the stick out of their ass. My advice to them: Get a twelve pack, grab some weed, and go get laid. You're taking life way too seriously if this bothers anyone.
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Also, any of you that have commented in this thread owe it to yourselves to at least watch Gruden's QB Camp with Johnny Manziel. If you keep the same opinions of Manziel after seeing it, fine. But at least attempt some objectivity and watch his session with Gruden. Pretty much the icing on the cake for me as far as the Texans needing to draft him.
I watched it and was impressed with Johnny's performance on it....wasn't too crazy about his outfit but he definitely said all the right things.

I actually feel the same way about Maziel that I felt about Vince back in the day. Without a doubt, he seems to have the highest ceiling out of all the prospects in the draft. From an emotional standpoint, I want the Texans to draft him and all the questions and concerns I've got will prove to be a bunch of BS....but all that's based on is emotion.

From a rational standpoint, I don't see it happening. I think the Fitz signing eliminates the possibility of drafting a QB at 1st overall. I think we'll look to trade down and take Clowney if we're not able to do it.
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Also, any of you that have commented in this thread owe it to yourselves to at least watch Gruden's QB Camp with Johnny Manziel. If you keep the same opinions of Manziel after seeing it, fine. But at least attempt some objectivity and watch his session with Gruden. Pretty much the icing on the cake for me as far as the Texans needing to draft him.
I agree , that was a very informative interview .... it helped answer some of the mental questions along with his talking about learning things he wasn't responsible for at A&M (specifically protection schemes) being a professional and perfecting his craft.

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From a rational standpoint, I don't see it happening. I think the Fitz signing eliminates the possibility of drafting a QB at 1st overall. I think we'll look to trade down and take Clowney if we're not able to do it.
What does signing a journeyman QB have to do with drafting one ? He's not the long term answer .... I cant see Fitz being anything more than a placeholder for the guy they do draft early. He buys that rookie some time to get his sh!t together.
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Soooo.......why do you have rats asses and why are giving them away?
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I saw and and like the fact he owned up to his mistakes. Didn't shy away from, didn't make excuses, said he did too much and knows he should have done things differently...

I look at like this, if the kid can play, he can play and draft him. If they feel any doubt, trade back, take the player(s) you need and move on...

Either way, gonna be an interesting year....
I can't take anything said in these things particularly seriously. They all have been coached out the wazoo on what to say to make the right impression.

If it's not football specific talk about scheme etc then its all spin. Even the football specific stuff you know its been drilled into them a million times and might not stand up in game action.

That is not a JFF specific comment just a skeptical buyer beware thing.
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Anyone know of a link to the full segment of the Manziel Gruden camp special?
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Anyone know of a link to the full segment of the Manziel Gruden camp special?
Will be on ESPN today at 1pm on Thursday at 8pm on ESPNU
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Anyone know of a link to the full segment of the Manziel Gruden camp special?

The longest piece I've found.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD9eJUzAR3Q
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The longest piece I've found.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD9eJUzAR3Q
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If only he was just a little bigger. I have warmed to the possibility of drafting this kid, but he is at his best when he improvises right? Im not sure how many hits by an NFL linebacker he is going to be able to take.

I really liked how he took every snap at his pro day from under center. Kinda like a "suck on this" to all the analysts.

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I have been a big fan of Manzel at A&M but have been worried about him as a pro. A lot of my concerns are still there but the guy is really something special and he handles the spotlight really well and lives to be in it. His drive and determination to win is really rare and contageous. I am now onboard with drafting him #1 or however OB can get him. He blew up his pro day and handled the media attention like he was just hanging out with friends.

I have been pulling for OT Robinson and would still be very happy with him. Clowney and Mack too. It is just that Johnny Football has something that those guys don't. It. He has "It". That can't be coached or taught. You have to be born with it. Rare indeed.
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I have been pulling for OT Robinson and would still be very happy with him. Clowney and Mack too. It is just that Johnny Football has something that those guys don't. It. He has "It". That can't be coached or taught. You have to be born with it. Rare indeed.
Yep, haven't seen a prospect with as much "it" value since Tim teebow
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Tebow as a competitor is one of the best you'll ever see play the game. He did have the "it" factor, but his problem is he lacked the main fundamental skill you need to play QB. HE COULDN'T PASS! Manziel is one of the most accurate QBs in this draft if not the most accurate. Big difference between the two.

I like Tebow as a person and wish the league could find somewhere for him to play for I believe his career is finished. He won a playoff game though which is more than a lot of QBs can say.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you anti-Manziel early in the thread? Good post though. The Texans can either keep doing things the "Texan way" and keeping floundering in mediocrity, or they can take a chance, get the boom or bust pick, and shoot for the Super Bowl. Personally, I'm tired of the "Texan way" and am ready to start enjoying the winning way.
I don't want any of the QB's at 1-1.

With that said taking Manziel would be taking a huge chance, something the Texans org is not known for.
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