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Is that why AJ McCarron refused to play in the Senior Bowl?

And besides, they aren't playing on a level playing field. They're not even in a game-day situation at all. Totally different.
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Game tape is how you should judge every player.
LOL! Yep, I just meant all this other pizazz might help other players, but not likely Johnny. He's such a unique prospect.
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No, so basically he's less than 6 ft. As I recall he virtually guaranteed he would be 6 feet tall, so basically then this is the first turd in Manziel's pile of BS.
And now watch his 40 time when he runs - he'll be lucky to break 4.70.
Yep, that dreaded 1/4 inch defecit, what a friggin bald-faced liar.

Anyone considering taking him in the draft should be warned that his track record for deception runs very deep.

Heck, I can't even imagine why Sumlin let the guy start for him.
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Yep, that dreaded 1/4 inch defecit, what a friggin bald-faced liar.

Anyone considering taking him in the draft should be warned that his track record for deception runs very deep.

Heck, I can't even imagine why Sumlin let the guy start for him.
I think this might have something to do with it. Not sure though.



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I think this might have something to do with it. Not sure though.

Hell of a play by Evans...
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Hell of a play by Evans...
Well, you're certainly not wrong . I'm intrigued to see what the dude's 40 time is. I know it doesn't mean a whole lot, but Evans is faster than I think he is given credit for.
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Well, you're certainly not wrong . I'm intrigued to see what the dude's 40 time is. I know it doesn't mean a whole lot, but Evans is faster than I think he is given credit for.
Great athlete, just very raw with the intricacies of playing WR. Probably a 4.5, which is great for his size.

I'm more interested to see what Benjamin will run. There's rumors that he could go sub 4.5.
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No, so basically he's less than 6 ft. As I recall he virtually guaranteed he would be 6 feet tall, so basically then this is the first turd in Manziel's pile of BS.
And now watch his 40 time when he runs - he'll be lucky to break 4.70.
I hope my sarcasm detector is off. The dude is 6ft tall. At 5'11 and 3/4 inch height I'm curious what his driver's license says.
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Great athlete, just very raw with the intricacies of playing WR. Probably a 4.5, which is great for his size.

I'm more interested to see what Benjamin will run. There's rumors that he could go sub 4.5.
If Benjamin runs somewhere in the 4.40s he could catapult himself into top 15, top 10 even. People are going to fall in love with that size and red zone ability, even if drop balls are a concern.

He could go to the Jets and become the next Stephen Hill or he could become the next big bodied threat.
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Ha, he just called Bortles a "kid".
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If Benjamin runs somewhere in the 4.40s he could catapult himself into top 15, top 10 even. People are going to fall in love with that size and red zone ability, even if drop balls are a concern.

He could go to the Jets and become the next Stephen Hill or he could become the next big bodied threat.
He's a lot better than Stephen Hill was when coming out, but still pretty raw. I liken him more to Demaryius Thomas.
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He's a lot better than Stephen Hill was when coming out, but still pretty raw. I liken him more to Demaryius Thomas.
If he goes to the right team, then, I think he could be extremely successful. How would you feel about him on the Lions? Jeez, that offense would be scary as hell with Megatron and Benjamin headlining it.
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If he goes to the right team, then, I think he could be extremely successful. How would you feel about him on the Lions? Jeez, that offense would be scary as hell with Megatron and Benjamin headlining it.
If they took him in the 1st round then I would feel like the Lions really don't understand the draft.

That said, that duo would be ridiculous. He definitely needs some coaching though.
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Manziel is a lock for the Texans. He's wearing #8 during the combine.
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#8 texans?.....you also just inadvertently condemned him to suck too...
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Sumlin referred Manziel for alcohol concerns to on campus counseling. Had meetings with him for next couple of years.

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Is that why AJ McCarron refused to play in the Senior Bowl?

And besides, they aren't playing on a level playing field. They're not even in a game-day situation at all. Totally different.
Who said anything about game day? I said level playing field. We've already seen what they can do on game day. This isn't about replacing what we already know. Just more information to add to what we already know.



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lol at people still talking about his height and not drafting quarterbacks unless they are 6'3 tall. What a stupid line of thinking.

hasnt the height thing been debunked by the doug fluties, drew brees, and russell wilsons of the world?

height? are we seriously talking about height here?

What the hell has height ever gotten us with our quarterbacks?
Our QBs weren't limited by their height. & as soon as 5' tall QBs start racking up super bowls & first time HOF status, I'll change my way of thinking.

Besides, I've stated repeatedly, bluntly that I like Manziel most of the top three. So its not like I'm only looking at height, as you imply.

I'm also not against drafting QBs who aren't 6'3" i never said as much. Just won't do it with the number one overall. Of course there are exceptions to every rule. He'd have to be an extremely special talent.

& while I do think Johnny is special enough for someone to think he is a top 5 pick, I think it would be a mistake.

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