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Old 02-20-2014   #2361
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No, JaMarcus Russell is more worthy of the #1 pick.
And he's got the meat on him to withstand a pounding in the NFL.
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No way we draft a QB who isn't at least 6'3" with the #1 overall pick.

Somewhere deep in the 3rd round.... understandable.

Even a 2nd rounder. Late first. But 1.1

No way.
So you would have passed on Vick?
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Here's what Eric Galko, the Director of Scouting for Optimum Scouting and lead editor of www.OptimumScouting.com., lead NFL Draft analyst for Sporting News and regular contributor at National Football Post and TheFootballEducator.com as well, had to say about Manziel. When I read this, I find it hard to argue with.

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Then again, they all whiff on somebody, especially before the combine.

@OptimumScout tweet from 2/9/11 - "Not sold on Watt because he has a lowish ceiling"

I see Manziel as the biggest risk in the top 15...with potentially as great a reward. He definitely will need to stay in the pocket more often to avoid RG3-level injuries.
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It was 3rd down with 1 yard to go for a first. I call a simple trap play. All you gotta do is hand off the ball...

But, nooooo, you decide to pull it out, scramble backwards 33 yards for 45 seconds, throw up a 34 yard Hail Mary with two guys draped over you that Evans has to go into orbit to catch for net... one... yard... first... down.

You're killing me, Johnny, you're killing me!
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Yup
Plastic surgery. Heel implants. He can afford it.
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Plastic surgery. Heel implants. He can afford it.
Or a Bump It hair clip...maybe?
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I find it hard to believe Manziel would open his mouth just a few days ago & say definitively that he was going to measure 6 feet even & he actually not be that....especially having had the time to work on his posture, the NFL's measuring techniques and knowing that the he'll be measured at the combine just a few days later.
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Or a Bump It hair clip...maybe?
Gil Brandt tweeted last week after standing next to Johnny Football he thought he was 5'10".
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Well we should know for sure in a matter of hours
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Updated photo of Manziel working out and sleeping quarters. Convenience.

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Stretch it out!
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Stretch it out!

Or getting used to getting hung out to dry.
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Or getting used to getting hung out to dry.
HEHE That's more like it.
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So you wouldn't draft Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rodgers first overall?
Show me one of your posts where you stated the Texans should have drafted Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rodgers in the first round. We didn't have the 1st overall pick but I don't remember anyone at anytime saying we should use a 1st round pick on any of them.

I understand there were no Texans when Brees fell out of the 1st, still I don't remember the, "I can't believe Brees fell to the second round" chatter.

Now if you want to use hindsight & draft these guys, wait 'till next year & tell us what we should have done. Until then, guys like Andrew Luck & Phillip Rivers will continue to go before guys like Johnny Manziel & Teddy Bridgewater.
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Show me one of your posts where you stated the Texans should have drafted Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rodgers in the first round. We didn't have the 1st overall pick but I don't remember anyone at anytime saying we should use a 1st round pick on any of them.

I understand there were no Texans when Brees fell out of the 1st, still I don't remember the, "I can't believe Brees fell to the second round" chatter.

Now if you want to use hindsight & draft these guys, wait 'till next year & tell us what we should have done. Until then, guys like Andrew Luck & Phillip Rivers will continue to go before guys like Johnny Manziel & Teddy Bridgewater.
Once again the point has gone so far over your head that you didn't even know it was there.

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No way we draft a QB who isn't at least 6'3" with the #1 overall pick.
But, haven't these guys I mentioned above proved that their is no magical mark of height that you have to be? This isn't 1998.

We need a QB, and if they best once available happens to not be this magical 6"3, do we not take him and just pick the tallest guy we can.

I think the whole underlying point of your post is that AJ McCarron happens to be listed at 6"4, so he qualifies for a first overall pick in your mind and posting this is just another subtle way to push him up while still not having to admit he is your guy.
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I don't care if JM checks in at 6'6". He is not going #1 to any team. His game just has too many question marks with regards to translating to the NFL.
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I don't care if JM checks in at 6'6". He is not going #1 to any team. His game just has too many question marks with regards to translating to the NFL.
Especially for the Texans. OB has always insisted on a QB which will adhere to STRUCTURE. Manziel has shown this ability in neither his personal life nor on the field.
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Once again the point has gone so far over your head that you didn't even know it was there.

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But, haven't these guys I mentioned above proved that their is no magical mark of height that you have to be? This isn't 1998.

We need a QB, and if they best once available happens to not be this magical 6"3, do we not take him and just pick the tallest guy we can.

I think the whole underlying point of your post is that AJ McCarron happens to be listed at 6"4, so he qualifies for a first overall pick in your mind and posting this is just another subtle way to push him up while still not having to admit he is your guy.
For whatever reason people want to believe I've got an ulterior motive. But I say what I mean. I'm not going to take "the best QB" at 1 overall if he's not 6'3" minimum. I've been pretty clear on this.

& as long as I believe 4 or more of the QBs I want will be on the board at 2.1, I'm not going to take a QB at all in the first. Chances are there are better options.

At least three prototypical LTs, two prototypical #1 WRs, a freak of a DE, two bonafide All-Pro ILBs.... but I'm going to take a 5'10" QB who's game won't translate to the NFL? or a guy with the leadership wherewithal of Matt Schaub?

I don't think so.

Just because Russell Wilson had a 70% chance of being successful in the NFL & made good of it, doesn't mean we should take a 70% propect over a 90% prospect.
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