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Johnny Manziel: McShay: Evaluators are most split on Manziel

Scouts Inc.'s Todd McShay says NFL evaluators might be more split on Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel than any other prospect in the draft.

Source: ESPN
So, McShay calls him "late 1st round talent". Interesting.

Regarding "what he does when he leaves the building", I gotta admit, that's my biggest peeve going into draft QB business. I want to know who is going to be the most dedicated to the sport. It's not what he 'does' when he leaves, it's 'when' he leaves, and 'when' he arrives.

O'Brien should ask each QB this question. Are you comfortable getting there when I get there, and leaving there only when I leave? I'm sure they would each say yes. As far as who he thinks is the most sincere, that would be the research he would need to conduct.
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The thing that gets me, is that Wade interviewed with the McNairs. Not the McNairs & Rick Smith.


The McNairs.
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The thing that gets me, is that Wade interviewed with the McNairs. Not the McNairs & Rick Smith.


The McNairs.
Maybe Smith was there. Isn't he godfather to McNair Jr's kid or something? "McNairs" might have been catchall.

But if Rick Smith wasn't there... well. That's a whole 'nother story.
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There has been no shortage of hyperbole and clever nicknaming thrown around when talking about Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel. Loved by many, hated by everyone else, the Texan plays bigger than his 6'0", 210-pound frame and has wowed the college football world in his short but brilliant career. Now, he's ready for the NFL.

The question, though, is if the NFL is ready for him.

Manziel doesn't fit into the classic metrics for quarterbacks. He's not 6'2"; he doesn't play primarily in the pocket; he runs too much; and he throws off his back foot all the time. But he makes plays—a lot of them—and they're NFL-level plays at that. Manziel may not be conventional, but he's really damn good.

From a scouting standpoint, Manziel is difficult to evaluate. He's the type of player that gets a general manager fired—either because they pass on him or because they draft him and he fails to transition to the NFL. But you have to take a chance on a player with his combination of speed, instincts, vision and accuracy.

And you have to acknowledge that he's a work-in-progress. Clean up his back-foot tendencies when throwing the ball and you have a passer with much better velocity and overall strength—and Manziel with a stronger arm is basically every scout's best friend.
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THE GOOD JOHNNY MANZIEL AND THE BAD IN TWO VIDEOS
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I figured I’d give you my visual look at both the good and bad that I’ve seen on film. Trust me, I’ve seen enough Manziel on tape that I sort of know things by heart now. That said, narrowing down two tremendous seasons to two plays isn’t the goal. The aim is for you to get a feel for what he does that people don’t think he can…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhsMvOPUIi0

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The question, though, is if the NFL is ready for him.
I used that same line just yesterday.

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From a scouting standpoint, Manziel is difficult to evaluate. He's the type of player that gets a general manager fired—either because they pass on him or because they draft him and he fails to transition to the NFL.
How can this end badly for us??
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First my apologies up front to all my fellow Bridgewater counterparts, but this Manziel going #1 is becoming an organism all unto itself that is growing & growing, from legs to tree trunks, kinda funny stuff but example how hard it is to stop a train even if it becomes a train wreck (mods could we get a Johnny Football smiley, thank you).
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First my apologies up front to all my fellow Bridgewater counterparts, but this Manziel going #1 is becoming an organism all unto itself that is growing & growing, from legs to tree trunks, kinda funny stuff but example how hard it is to stop a train even if it becomes a train wreck (mods could we get a Johnny Football smiley, thank you).
I'm glad it started now. It'll lose steam by draft time.
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I'm glad it started now. It'll lose steam by draft time.
hasn't lost steam in two years but it will in 3 1/2 months?
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hasn't lost steam in two years but it will in 3 1/2 months?
I honestly haven't heard Manziel would be the #1 pick in the draft over the last 2 years. I'll admit that I may be out of the loop.
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Question When did this Fanbase become Gary Kubiak?

Its sad that the Gary Kubiak era has contaminated the fanbase.

This fanbase has been together for so long with Kubiak and Schaub that the fanbase has adopted Kubiak's conservative, scared to go for the win mentality. Kubiak has turned this fanbase into scared little kids who cant look at a crucial field goal kick. Scared to run a trick play.

This fanbase has become gutless like Kubiak. You guys need to check yourselves. Look at the mirror, arent you ashamed you've become like Kubiak?

When did you all become so scared to take a chance?

When did you all become so conservative like Kubiak?

When did you guys become so fearful of doing something drastic? Something that had high risk but also had high reward?

When did you guys become Kubiak?

When did you guys become so scared to go big?

When did you guys adopt the play not to lose mentality?

The Manziel pick is the ANTI KUBIAK PICK. Its the trick play that Kubiak was always scared to call.

The Manziel pick is that 4th down that Kubiak was always afraid to go for.

The Manziel pick is that 3rd down pass that Schaub would have never gone for.

The Manziel pick is going for the win, instead of playing not to lose.

Johnny Manziel's entire being as a player and person is the complete opposite of what we have had here for more than half a decade. He is the complete opposite of Matt Schaub.

Yet for some strange idiotic reason, Texan fans at least on this site are completely oblivious and are against Manziel. You guys want another prototypical big tall quarterback in blake bortles who looks and plays just like another Matt Schaub.

This is is the kind of sad, ignorant mentality that has afflicted this franchise.

You guys are afraid to think outside the box.

This is the kind of mentality that allows someone like Schaub and David Carr to last this long.

YOU ARE JUST LIKE YOUR FRONT OFFICE.

AFRAID TO TAKE A CHANCE SO LETS STICK WITH THE STATUS QUO OF CARR, KUBIAK, AND SCHAUB.

Here is Johnny Football. The anti schaub. The high risk high reward guy. The tested talent vs great competition. The talent that looks spectacular on the field. The new breed of running and passing quarterback cut from the same cloth as the russell wilsons, the kapernicks, the newtons, the rg3s...


Yet what does the fanbase and current coaching staff do?

You try to look for ways to not draft the guy. You make up fake accusations like having poor work ethic. You do everything to tell yourself we dont want that guy.

David Carr was the prototypical qb. Schaub had the prototypical qb height.

How many times are we gonna with the prototypical qb and get our hearts broken?

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

Go ahead, pick the safe prototypical quarterback texans so we can get our prototypical result.

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Its sad that the Gary Kubiak era has contaminated the fanbase.

When did you all become so scared to take a chance?
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Its sad that the Gary Kubiak era has contaminated the fanbase.

This fanbase has been together for so long with Kubiak and Schaub that the fanbase has adopted Kubiak's conservative, scared to go for the win mentality. Kubiak has turned this fanbase into scared little kids who cant look at a crucial field goal kick. Scared to run a trick play.

This fanbase has become gutless like Kubiak. You guys need to check yourselves. Look at the mirror, arent you ashamed you've become like Kubiak?

When did you all become so scared to take a chance?

When did you all become so conservative like Kubiak?

When did you guys become so fearful of doing something drastic? Something that had high risk but also had high reward?

When did you guys become Kubiak?

When did you guys become so scared to go big?

When did you guys adopt the play not to lose mentality?

The Manziel pick is the ANTI KUBIAK PICK. Its the trick play that Kubiak was always scared to call.

The Manziel pick is that 4th down that Kubiak was always afraid to go for.

The Manziel pick is that 3rd down pass that Schaub would have never gone for.

The Manziel pick is going for the win, instead of playing not to lose.

Johnny Manziel's entire being as a player and person is the complete opposite of what we have had here for more than half a decade. He is the complete opposite of Matt Schaub.

Yet for some strange idiotic reason, Texan fans at least on this site are completely oblivious and are against Manziel. You guys want another prototypical big tall quarterback in blake bortles who looks and plays just like another Matt Schaub.

This is is the kind of sad, ignorant mentality that has afflicted this franchise.

You guys are afraid to think outside the box.

This is the kind of mentality that allows someone like Schaub and David Carr to last this long.

YOU ARE JUST LIKE YOUR FRONT OFFICE.

AFRAID TO TAKE A CHANCE SO LETS STICK WITH THE STATUS QUO OF CARR, KUBIAK, AND SCHAUB.

Here is Johnny Football. The anti schaub. The high risk high reward guy. The tested talent vs great competition. The talent that looks spectacular on the field. The new breed of running and passing quarterback cut from the same cloth as the russell wilsons, the kapernicks, the newtons, the rg3s...


Yet what does the fanbase and current coaching staff do?

You try to look for ways to not draft the guy. You make up fake accusations like having poor work ethic. You do everything to tell yourself we dont want that guy.

David Carr was the prototypical qb. Schaub had the prototypical qb height.

How many times are we gonna with the prototypical qb and get our hearts broken?

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

Go ahead, pick the safe prototypical quarterback texans so we can get our prototypical result.

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