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Manziel to the Cowboys?!

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Doesn't hurt the arguement .
Doesn't verify it either.
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How does getting drafted by a baseball team make you a great athalete? I would say Manziel is just as good or better an athalete than Wilson. The fact that Wilson got drafted by a bSeball team means nothing in this debate.
Only on the texanstalk messageboard does it mean nothing. Get back at me when you can hit a 80+ MPH curve...or a 90+ MPH fastball 2 out of 10 times...better yet, get back at me when 2 different teams think enough of your athleticism to draft you in the MLB draft twice as they did with Wilson...Doubt manziel was seeing that kind of interest as a baseball prospect in high school.

Sure a few of the athletic skills needed to excel in each sport are different, but athleticism manifests itself in many different skill sets..The ability to transfer that skill set in 1 sport to another sport is skill and another form of athleticism all its own...that's what made guys like Deion & Bo Jackson that much better athletically than their counterparts who only really could focus on that 1 sport. Wilson's not quite in that stratosphere athletically, but it's the ability to do that..which puts him well above JFF as an athlete in that realm.
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Only on the texanstalk messageboard does it mean nothing. Get back at me when you can hit a 80+ MPH curve...or a 90+ MPH fastball 2 out of 10 times...better yet, get back at me when 2 different teams think enough of your athleticism to draft you in the MLB draft twice as they did with Wilson...
Probably thinks Dave Winfield being drafted in the NBA, ABA, NFL and MLB doesn't count as athleticism either...
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Wilson was a two-sport star at NC State in football and baseball, graduated then transferred to Wisconsin where he set the FBS record on passing efficiency. He played minor league baseball, was the NFL ROY, and he has most recently won the Super Bowl.
How does any of this prove Wilson is a better athalete than Maziel?
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Probably thinks Dave Winfield being drafted in the NBA, ABA, NFL and MLB doesn't count as athleticism either...
It doesn't prove that he is a better athalete than Dwight Howard. Just because someone plays more than one sport doesn't automatically make them a better a athalete than someone who plays only one.
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How does any of this prove Wilson is a better athalete than Maziel?
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My Bevo-dar is going off...

You're throwing out meaningless stats. Other than the LSU game Manziel performed well in all of them. Watch tape instead of just saying "well this happened or that happened." I was there for every single game Manziel played in. I'll tell you that he wasn't the reason we lost.
No, I went to a DII school in Virginia, but nice try. Typical Aggie paranoia that a dissenting opinion must be coming from a Longhorn alum.
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That's an awesome verbal beatdown, especially in hindsight after Sherman's team wins a championship.

"I'm better at life than you"

You see so many respectable and great pro athletes that seem to despise Skip Bayless. It makes you wonder, why?

Truth is Bayless makes his living on controversial opinions. I think he pulls most of them out of his butt because controversy keeps him "relevant" as it pertains to being an entertainment figure.

However, the truth of the matter is those that cannot work for an actual professional sports team, write about them instead.

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So, if Bill O'Brien, according to you, has made some kind of statement questioning Manziel's work ethic, do you actually think he would pull something like that out of his ass? What purpose would that serve? And to whom?

If the head coach has doubts about his work ethic, then so I. I'll take his observation over some hack ESPN reporters any day of the week.
This is what I don't get.

Fine, use Bayless or Stephen Smith as a reference opinion, but let's not get stupid with it and act like they have the qualifications to be an assistance coach in the NFL, much less a head coach.

The story was pure hearsay to begin with. It was about Manziel and Bortles being the Texans top picks, but O'Brien is reportedly concerned about Manziel's potential lack of work ethic and intangibles.

But, the story starts with "According to trusted sources...", like that's the be all/end all of truth in media. Yeah, and according to trusted sources, Harbaugh was not consulted when he hired Kubiak. Riiiiiiiiiight

"According to trusted sources..." the moon landing is fake!

"According to trusted sources..." Elvis is still alive!

"According to trusted sources..." 09/11 was perpetuated by the U.S. government!

"According to trusted sources..." Vince Young was a Hall of Famer before he even got drafted!

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It doesn't prove that he is a better athalete than Dwight Howard. Just because someone plays more than one sport doesn't automatically make them a better a athalete than someone who plays only one.
Do you even know who Dave Winfield is?

He was voted the third best athlete of all time in any sport. Not just in the sport he chose to play professionally, baseball. Third best all time athlete in any sport.

So yes, he is a better athlete than Dwight Howard.
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Do you even know who Dave Winfield is?

He was voted the third best athlete of all time in any sport. Not just in the sport he chose to play professionally, baseball. Third best all time athlete in any sport.

So yes, he is a better athlete than Dwight Howard.
Still doesn't change the fact that playing more than one sport makes you a better athalete than someone who plays one sport.
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What's with repeatedly misspelling "athlete?" Some kind of joke?
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Still doesn't change the fact that playing more than one sport makes you a better athalete than someone who plays one sport.
Thanks for agreeing with me...
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How does any of this prove Wilson is a better athalete than Maziel?
Maybe a just a better QB: add Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick and Tom Brady to the drafted by MLB list. Three of the four playoff QBs.

And, Russell Wilson is better at life than Johnny Manziel.

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What's with repeatedly misspelling "athlete?" Some kind of joke?
Some get a little lose with spelling as time goes on. Then we loose interest.
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Maybe a just a better QB: add Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick and Tom Brady to the drafted by MLB list. Three of the four playoff QBs.

And, Russell Wilson is better at life than Johnny Manziel.

Manziel is head and shoulder better than Russell Wilson was at this stage of his career. I don't remember Wilson ever being mentioned as the number one pick. I also don't remember Wilson winning Heisman trophy the first year as a starter.

Wilson and Kaepernick are mobile game mangers. Their teams are more responsible for their team achievements than they are. You put either of them on a bad team and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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anybody catch first take this morning?

Stephen A Smith absolutely crushed bill o brien for saying he questions manziel's work ethic.

He absolutely ethered o brien's baseless accusations.

Skip said that Nick Saban said he has never in all of his years coaching football come across a competitor like Manziel.

I dont understand why we cant just judge manziel on what he does on the football field.

Sounds to me like obrien made that take without any evidence whatsoever and just wanted to pollute the air. Stephen A said it best, if you dont like johnny football as a player, just say that. Dont make baseless accusations like he doesnt believe in his work ethic just to slander the guy.

Im telling you right now, passing up on that kind of talent and potential will haunt the texans.

It will be randy moss 2.0 all over again.
No I didn't catch it. I can't stand that screaming b1tch and don't put any stock into anything he spews.

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