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Old 02-05-2014   #1981
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Default Re: Texans MUST TAKE Manziel.

Manziel is gonna be decent if he can stay healthy. I'm not worried about off field stuff because I did way worse things at his age than he's done and I'vegrown up to be productive.
But I have watched a lot of Teddy Bridgewater and I've said numerous times, this guy can be Aaron Rodgers. His skill set is very similar. The only concern is his size and after hitting a weightroom with NFL strength and conditioning coaches, the size is gonna be a non issue.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jQyR6jYxn4

I mean look at that man. Look at that.

Come on. He's freaking spectacular. That's not conference USA he's playing against.

Passing up on Manziel is the 2nd coming of passing up on randy moss.

You cannot pass up on that kind of potential just because of some harmless bad publicity.
Johnny Freaking Football lost to every ranked SEC team he played this year. He didn't beat a single SEC team that had a winning conference record. They finished 7th in the conference. He had to do a major come-from-behind to beat Duke in a bowl game. D-U-K-E.

Who cares about stats if he can't win the games that matter?

He sure does look purdy though beating up on SHSU and UTEP...
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I mean look at that man. Look at that.

Come on. He's freaking spectacular. That's not conference USA he's playing against.

Passing up on Manziel is the 2nd coming of passing up on randy moss.

You cannot pass up on that kind of potential just because of some harmless bad publicity.

Lord Bills has the biggest broner showing.

I like Bortles but at the end if the day I'm for whoever Obie wants. If he picks TB, BB, or JFF I'll be behind it.
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what makes you so special that your opinion deserves its own thread?

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94774
LMAO man the OP has some issues. Posts his own threads on topics that have been established and talked about like a broken record then bashes and gives neg rep to those who dont agree with him.
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I hope this guy has a Foley catheter!
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Lord Bills has the biggest broner showing.

I like Bortles but at the end if the day I'm for whoever Obie wants. If he picks TB, BB, or JFF I'll be behind it.
^This. I'm predicting a lot of anger from the different camps, regardless of who we draft. How about we support whoever we do draft and give em a few years before making judgement. There is no MUST TAKE in any draft.
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You cannot pass up on that kind of potential just because of some harmless bad publicity.
Is this what your argument comes down to? You started a new Manziel thread over this?
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Default Re: Texans MUST TAKE Manziel.

To answer the OP, no, no they don't.
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Default Re: Texans MUST TAKE Manziel.

Great thread

You do realize there's a College and draft forum, right? Not that this thread needs to be anywhere in TT to begin with, but...
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...the OP has some issues. Posts his own threads on topics that have been established and talked about like a broken record then bashes and gives neg rep to those who dont agree with him.
Seriously? That's fied.
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No ****! I'm tired of this already. I mean really, what else can be said? I wish the draft would hurry up and get here.
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Johnny Freaking Football lost to every ranked SEC team he played this year. He didn't beat a single SEC team that had a winning conference record. They finished 7th in the conference. He had to do a major come-from-behind to beat Duke in a bowl game. D-U-K-E.

Who cares about stats if he can't win the games that matter?

He sure does look purdy though beating up on SHSU and UTEP...
annnnd Texas A&M's 85th ranked defense had nooooothing to do with those loses?

You hang 40+ on a team and lose, that isn't on the QB. You give up 5 TDs in the first 5 possessions to
D-U-K-E, has nothing to do with the QB....

Can't hang the problems of a horrible A&M defense on Manziel's shoulders when Manziel has no control of that matter. That falls on Sumlin...

nice try, thanks for playing...
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Default Re: Texans MUST TAKE Manziel.

I think Manziel is a good QB but lets look at what O'Brien has worked with

Christian Hackenberg: Big kid. Big arm. Pocket guy

Tom Brady: Big guy. Big arm. Pocket guy

Sorry, I just think he will lean to one of the other two.
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I think Manziel is a good QB but lets look at what O'Brien has worked with

Christian Hackenberg: Big kid. Big arm. Pocket guy

Tom Brady: Big guy. Big arm. Pocket guy

Sorry, I just think he will lean to one of the other two.
looks like he might be leaning towards Bortles then?

If that be the case, dangle that #1 pick in front of Cleveland, drop back a few slots and pick up some extra picks...

worst case scenario, Texans have their pick of Bortles, Bridgewater or Clowney at #4 spot...
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looks like he might be leaning towards Bortles then?

If that be the case, dangle that #1 pick in front of Cleveland, drop back a few slots and pick up some extra picks...

worst case scenario, Texans have their pick of Bortles, Bridgewater or Clowney at #4 spot...
I think Bortles and if not he can move back, take D and then get a guy like Mettenberger from LSU or the Logan Thomas kid from Va Tech. They fit his style. I guess you then start Keenum after cutting Schaub. Not sure that goes into the "win now" philosophy but it makes sense.
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Johnny Freaking Football lost to every ranked SEC team he played this year. He didn't beat a single SEC team that had a winning conference record. They finished 7th in the conference. He had to do a major come-from-behind to beat Duke in a bowl game. D-U-K-E.

Who cares about stats if he can't win the games that matter?

He sure does look purdy though beating up on SHSU and UTEP...
Look at where A&M's defense ranks in the most important category. Hint: they aren't on page 1. Team Scoring Defense

You're a fool if you think "Johnny Freaking Football" was the reason they lost to every ranked SEC team. If you did more than look at the final score of the Duke game, you'd also have seen how atrocious his defense was in that game, and it took some serious leadership abilities to bring his team back.
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You cannot pass up on that play making potential. People underrate him because of his off field problems (fake controversy drummed up by mindless media like espn) but he is russell wilson 2.0

The white Michael Vick.

The talent is there. The production is there against elite college football competition. You cannot pass up on that kind of upside/potential.
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how you figure?

michael vick was spectacular in college making similar spectacular plays. He did the same thing in the NFL until he lost his way.

You cant be possibly saying that Manziel will run a criminal underground dog fighting operation can you?
Michael Vick is still a pretty good QB. The dog fighting thing took him out of the NFL for a while, but he's never stopped being a viable NFL QB... There were injury concerns & injury pretty much screwed him last year
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Players I would take before Manziel

Bridgewater
Clowney
J.Mathews
Mack
G. Robinson
Barr
Bortles
Watkins
Carr
Mosley
Dennard
Lee
Lewman

and maybe M. Evans and Kouandjio

Then, maybe if I'm feeling gutsy, I draft the local kid to sell some tickets.
I don't understand the Carr love. All he's got is size & arm. Other than that, he's a project. Doesn't make sense he's a first round prospect but guys like Murray & Boyd are 3rd rounders at best. Mettenberger's got a knee issue. If that clears up by draft time, as far as being able to play in 2014, it would make more sense to me that he'd be taken before Carr.
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