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Old 09-16-2012   #1
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Default Trindon Holliday is an accident waiting to happen

His upside does not supersede his downside.

Am I the only one who sees it this way?

I hate to think of another playoff game lost thanks to a guy who forces you to hold your breath every time he's on the field.
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Maybe he is a td waiting to happen.
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I have to admit he is making me nervous.
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He's no JJ Moses. Holliday can take it to the house...but the decision skills and hands worry me.

Not a fan, not a hater. Just concerned, as you are.
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His upside does not supersede his downside.

Am I the only one who sees it this way?

I hate to think of another playoff game lost thanks to a guy who forces you to hold your breath every time he's on the field.
I think we are overly nervous because of the Jacoby Jones debacle we have lived thru the past 4 years.

I am always nervous on punt returns. Pisses me off that I am that way.
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Default Re: Trindon Holliday is an accident waiting to happen

If we drop him, who else can return kicks and punts? Manning would be wasting energy on ST. Maybe Forsett?
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Default Re: Trindon Holliday is an accident waiting to happen

He's not going anywhere unless he starts giving the ball away. He hasn't done that as of yet. I still sense some nerves there though. I've been disappointed with our return blocking units as well. Way too many penalties today on returns.
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Default Re: Trindon Holliday is an accident waiting to happen

He had one muff today, but the second one hit off Quinn's helmet. Not Holliday's fault
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Default Re: Trindon Holliday is an accident waiting to happen

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Maybe he is a td waiting to happen.
He's both.

A accident or a TD waiting to happen.

He's dropped, muffed, way too many punts in the first couple of games though.
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Default Re: Trindon Holliday is an accident waiting to happen

It's not just you. For some reason, I take a deep breath whenever he has the ball.
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Default Re: Trindon Holliday is an accident waiting to happen

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He had one muff today, but the second one hit off Quinn's helmet. Not Holliday's fault
The return man is supposed to make a hand signal and back away from the area if he's not going to catch the ball. Quin and the other gunner were blocking out because they thought he was in position to make a return. They can't see the ball coming from their POV, so they have to rely on the returnman to make the call. It is completely on Holliday to call them off on short punts.
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The return man is supposed to make a hand signal and back away from the area if he's not going to catch the ball. Quin and the other gunner were blocking out because they thought he was in position to make a return. They can't see the ball coming from their POV, so they have to rely on the returnman to make the call. It is completely on Holliday to call them off on short punts.
I may be wrong, but I thought Holliday motioned for the fair catch and then had to get out of the way because Quinn got too close to him
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The return man is supposed to make a hand signal and back away from the area if he's not going to catch the ball. Quin and the other gunner were blocking out because they thought he was in position to make a return. They can't see the ball coming from their POV, so they have to rely on the returnman to make the call. It is completely on Holliday to call them off on short punts.
He's supposed to yell Peter and then they're supposed to tail off...... but it wasn't a short punt and Trindon was trying to go catch the ball which he should of done. It really was just a freak play. He's definitely learning of the job and it hasn't cost us yet. I pray it stays that way.
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I may be wrong, but I thought Holliday motioned for the fair catch and then had to get out of the way because Quinn got too close to him
It looked to me like GQ was telling Trindon he needs to speak up like he couldn't hear him. Trindon has to be loud and clear to get out of the way.
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He's supposed to yell Peter and then they're supposed to tail off...... but it wasn't a short punt and Trindon was trying to go catch the ball which he should of done. It really was just a freak play. He's definitely learning of the job and it hasn't cost us yet. I pray it stays that way.

you're not giving enough credit to the punter. anger outkicked the return, and hit it at an angle. neither quinn nor holliday expected the ball to hit anywhere close to where it did, and certainly not with the velocity that it had.
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you're not giving enough credit to the punter. anger outkicked the return, and hit it at an angle. neither quinn nor holliday expected the ball to hit anywhere close to where it did, and certainly not with the velocity that it had.
I said it was a freak play. Their punter was awesome today. You normally see that kind of play of shorter punts. That wasn't really a short punt.
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Default Re: Trindon Holliday is an accident waiting to happen

Today before his first return, he was skipping back to the goal. He reminded me more of Jacoby than Jacoby. I think there are some similarities. I just hope turning the ball over isn't one of them. He seems to call for a fair catch more often than Jacoby did which makes me feel a bit better.
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Even if he broke one for a TD it'd get called back for block in the back.
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If we drop him, who else can return kicks and punts? Manning would be wasting energy on ST. Maybe Forsett?
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