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Old 09-18-2012   #61
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I'd rather have RG3 over Luck.
Yeah I have been thinking if I gave the choices as Matt, or Griffin would the response change?

Decided against it, but since you brought it up????

Matt or Griffin??
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Yeah I have been thinking if I gave the choices as Matt, or Griffin would the response change?

Decided against it, but since you brought it up????

Matt or Griffin??
Dude, I so want that guy who destroyed those powerful defenses in NO and STL
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How is that even a question?

Griffin III hands down.
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I know you hate TJ, but c'mon, he's at least won a playoff game and Luck has a mere two pro games under his belt. I think it's a valid debate that does not merit a homer-blast.
Dude you've got to be kidding me. Yates is nothing but a career back up that would get laughed at in any conversation outside of Houston if any of you tried comparing him to Luck. Luck is well on his way to being a top 10 QB by next season if not this season possibly. THeir names should never even be in the same sentence. I can't believe you would defend such a ridiculous notion honestly. I don't care if Luck was still a sophmore. He is a 100 times the QB that Yates will ever be and within a year or so he'll be a better QB then Schaub most likely. But Yates?? That isn't even debatable for any rationale football conversation. Not at all. And I don't hate him. I just hate the homerish nonsense about TJ yates being anything other then a perennial back up on the Texans. People on this site seem to really overrate certain Texans players. I know it's a Texans site, but objectivity should be still be of importance here.
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Shouldnt be a debate at all.

Anyone who knows the game takes Yates.
And you clearly are having trouble here. If Yates had anywhere near that type of potential for even one year, people from all over the league would say that Yates needed to start over Schaub. Yates is a guy that might not have been drafted if it wasn't for the interest in the Texans in their 6th round. He didn't show anything close to suggest that he could make the kind of plays needed to go all the way. Luck is arguably top 15 already to me just from watching the guy. Yates is a career back up that killed the Texans in the playoffs when his arm was needed.
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I know you hate TJ, but c'mon, he's at least won a playoff game and Luck has a mere two pro games under his belt. I think it's a valid debate that does not merit a homer-blast.

In Yates win he was 11/20 for 159 yards 1 td so we can't act like he killed it,it would seem to me that foster with 153 rushing yards rushing and our d helped win us the game and Yates played an okay game which means he didn't goof up bad enough to lose.
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And you clearly are having trouble here. If Yates had anywhere near that type of potential for even one year, people from all over the league would say that Yates needed to start over Schaub. Yates is a guy that might not have been drafted if it wasn't for the interest in the Texans in their 6th round. He didn't show anything close to suggest that he could make the kind of plays needed to go all the way. Luck is arguably top 15 already to me just from watching the guy. Yates is a career back up that killed the Texans in the playoffs when his arm was needed.
It's been a while so refresh my memory. Who got us into the playoffs to begin with? I don't recall it being luck or lucky. It looked like skill to me.

But then, that's just me.
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It's been a while so refresh my memory. Who got us into the playoffs to begin with? I don't recall it being luck or lucky. It looked like skill to me.

But then, that's just me.


Who got us into the playoffs? Our defense and running game.
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Wow. No love for Yates. Yates did a fine job last year under the pressure of a franchise starving for a playoff berth WITH Bud's team nipping at their heels. Losing the division to Tennessee last year would have been a catastophic blow to the Texans and their fans.

With all that Yates sailed down the Cincinnati field - with help of a flag or two - to seal the deal.

I get this is a Luck vs Yates thing, but I've seen more Yates and I'm biased. Luck is better, but Yates made my year last year, screw Luck.

I remember what you did, TJ, thanks!!
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Wow. No love for Yates. Yates did a fine job last year under the pressure of a franchise starving for a playoff berth WITH Bud's team nipping at their heels. Losing the division to Tennessee last year would have been a catastophic blow to the Texans and their fans.

With all that Yates sailed down the Cincinnati field - with help of a flag or two - to seal the deal.

I get this is a Luck vs Yates thing, but I've seen more Yates and I'm biased. Luck is better, but Yates made my year last year, screw Luck.

I remember what you did, TJ, thanks!!


Sailed down the field to seal the deal? We were winning 17-10 at the half 24-10 after the 3rd and won 31-10 so let's not make out some game defining drive by yates
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If you mean Andrew Luck, the guy who threw 3 picks vs the Bears, and followed it up with an ok performance against a defense that made Blaine Gabbert look like a pro, then oh yeah....I want him THIS year over Schaub.
Now THIS is how you make a splash when new to the message board.

You had a post somewhere else that enjoyed a lot too.

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Sailed down the field to seal the deal? We were winning 17-10 at the half 24-10 after the 3rd and won 31-10 so let's not make out some game defining drive by yates
Geezus man. Go back and read the post and see I'm talking about the clincher in Cincinnati. Why else would I include Tennessee and starving for a playoff berth in the post?

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I uh sort of have to scale back my Yates fervor.

I had thought that IF we didn't have Schaub, that Yates would look like a better QB by virtue of a full offseason and full camp.

I don't know why, but he looked worse in preseason this year. I don't care if he had scrubs alongside him...he was playing AGAINST scrubs across from him, and he didn't do anything special or even remotely competent.

I also thought Jacoby Jones, heading into 2011, was going to have a breakthrough year. Wrong.

I root for no player anymore because of that. LOL.

Schaub is not perfect, but he's the best QB in the AFCS. You can tell he knows that all he has to do is stay smart. He has a focus right now that can end up being a huge "it" factor.
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Does anyone else think that Luck talks like the Sloth from The Goonies?
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I uh sort of have to scale back my Yates fervor.

I had thought that IF we didn't have Schaub, that Yates would look like a better QB by virtue of a full offseason and full camp.

I don't know why, but he looked worse in preseason this year. I don't care if he had scrubs alongside him...he was playing AGAINST scrubs across from him, and he didn't do anything special or even remotely competent.
QFT!!!

If Yates was "all that" he should have lifted the level of play of those "scrubs" around him during those P/S games. He didn't. And when you think about it, our 2nd team isn't all that bad... Ben Tate/Justin Forsett @ RB, Jean & KMart (sometimes) at WR, Garrett Graham @ TE... dude had some weapons... didn't seem to use them properly. One full year plus a full set of OTAs/training camp sessions in our system AND, as some have pointed out, four years of college ball in a similar system. Yet no appreciable progress this preseason. Tex is right, if the light doesn't come on soon, Yates is staring at being catagorized as a career backup.

No way I pick him over Schaub for this season.

And the Yates vs. Luck comparison cannot be for one season only, both are too young. They would represent the future. So if Schaub was hurt such that we had to make that choice, it would be Luck in a landslide.
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Geezus man. Go back and read the post and see I'm talking about the clincher in Cincinnati. Why else would I include Tennessee and starving for a playoff berth in the post?

20-19, December 11, 2011 in case you are wondering.


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Sorry I overlooked that I was in playoff mode
Me too...lol. I was in quitting smoking mode last night. Day 20 today and one would think I would be doing better, but last night I was tense.

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