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Old 09-17-2012   #41
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I would take Yates over luck since he has one more year of familiarity with the offense.
I hope this is a joke. If not, this has got to be one of the most homerish statements I've seen in here.
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Default Re: Schaub or Luck for the rest of this season ONLY.

Not sure what the point of this hypothetical thread is but I would say that there is no question...Schaub.

I have only read thru a few of the posts in this thread but are there people out there that think that Luck is a better QB at this point?

There is no way.

The kid has a very tall cieling and an absolute cannon of an arm but he is a rookie and is showing it in the first two weeks.

I want the Houston defense to do to Luck what the rest of the NFL did to HWNSNBM. Sack him. Hit him. Make him run for cover and be afraid every snap.

When a QB gets sacked repeatedly it turns into a vicious cycle of "run for cover". I want the Colts to lose the next 7 years before they finally cut Luck.

I know, I know. Wishful thinking but I feel our defense can have the upper hand in this battle for years to come. In the past we built our defense to stop Peyton Manning. We are now at that point. Now Luck needs to hone his skills to beat our defense.
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I would take Yates over luck since he has one more year of familiarity with the offense.
Actually Yates has five more years of familiarity, he ran the same basic offense at NC.
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I hope this is a joke. If not, this has got to be one of the most homerish statements I've seen in here.
I know you hate TJ, but c'mon, he's at least won a playoff game and Luck has a mere two pro games under his belt. I think it's a valid debate that does not merit a homer-blast.
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I know you hate TJ, but c'mon, he's at least won a playoff game and Luck has a mere two pro games under his belt. I think it's a valid debate that does not merit a homer-blast.
Shouldnt be a debate at all.

Anyone who knows the game takes Yates.
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Shouldnt be a debate at all.

Anyone who knows the game takes Yates.
Have you seen Luck play this year?
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I know you hate TJ, but c'mon, he's at least won a playoff game and Luck has a mere two pro games under his belt. I think it's a valid debate that does not merit a homer-blast.
The Luck vs TJ is a much better thread than the original!

I'd take Luck over TJ. Yates handled himself well last year, but Luck looks like a good starting QB for alot of years.
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The Luck vs TJ is a much better thread than the original!

I'd take Luck over TJ. Yates handled himself well last year, but Luck looks like a good starting QB for alot of years.
This isnt asking about the future, it says the season ONLY. I would go with Yates based on the fact that he knows our offense.
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This isnt asking about the future, it says the season ONLY. I would go with Yates based on the fact that he knows our offense.
Knowing the offense and executing it are 2 different things. I think Luck has a lot more upside, even this season, than Yates has even if he was named starter tomorrow.
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I hope this is a joke. If not, this has got to be one of the most homerish statements I've seen in here.
I don't know...the argument could be made. If the Texans are pushing for a Superbowl THIS YEAR, then the argument could be made that Yates is preferable (if Schaub is injured).

I still don't know if I could buy into that though.
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Have you seen Luck play this year?
Yes, but he is a rookie who doesnt know our system. For one year the logical choice is Yates.
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Default Re: Schaub or Luck for the rest of this season ONLY.

I vote for gimp foot!

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Luck beat da viqueens lets not go NUTZZZZ LOL
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This isnt asking about the future, it says the season ONLY. I would go with Yates based on the fact that he knows our offense.
Not impressed by Yates at all.

Luck would have done better than TJ last year in the same situation I believe.
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Not impressed by Yates at all.

Luck would have done better than TJ last year in the same situation I believe.
With Kubiak calling the shots? I don't know. He pretty much neutered the play-book with the rookie, I don't know if it mattered much who the rookie was. His job was on the line.
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Default Re: Schaub or Luck for the rest of this season ONLY.

Seems like we've changed the question the OP posed...

If the question is still Luck or Schaub - for this season only... the answer is Schaub.

If the new question is Luck or Yates for this season only... I think Yates is the answer... ...but not by much.

Now that QB combo implies Schaub's Lisfranc thing would take all this season to heal properly so he'd be back next season
AND somehow we got Luck out of the draft
AND we still had Yates on the roster - meaning we had both from OTAs on... then I think Yates would have an edge going into OTAs but I wouldn't be surprised if Luck doesn't push Yates hard preseason and steal the starter's job if Yates fails to improve significantly (as he did this preseason). Five years in the same or similar system and he still looks lost at times.
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I know stats arent everything but I still like to look at them just to pull in some info


Yates career

110/189 58.2% 4 TDs 6ints 4 fumbles

Luck

43/76 56.6% 3 TDs 3ints 1 fumble


Luck's data is a small subset so it is harder to work with but given Id say our offense last year even without Schaub was better than the colts currently. If I had to pick between the two Id pick Luck by that stats there doesnt seem tobe much downside and I think there is far greater upside
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Default Re: Schaub or Luck for the rest of this season ONLY.

If you mean Andrew Luck, the guy who threw 3 picks vs the Bears, and followed it up with an ok performance against a defense that made Blaine Gabbert look like a pro, then oh yeah....I want him THIS year over Schaub.
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If you mean Andrew Luck, the guy who threw 3 picks vs the Bears, and followed it up with an ok performance against a defense that made Blaine Gabbert look like a pro, then oh yeah....I want him THIS year over Schaub.


If you take Lucks name out and put in Yates change some team names around it would sound like last year
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If you take Lucks name out and put in Yates change some team names around it would sound like last year
Exactly. I think Luck gives us a better chance than TJ though, just due to his natural talent.
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