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Old 05-28-2005   #1
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Question What year did Houston field the best team ever?

I am starting to believe that in 05 the Jaguars will be fielding the best team ever in Jacksonville, and it had me wondering what year did Houston have the best team ever?
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Probably 1993, or during the Earl Campbell errah, but I wasn't around then, so to me, 1993. We had an absolutely awesome defence, had Jeffries, Givens, Duncan, and Slaughter, and Gary Brown had his only good season in the NFL. Absolutely unreal amount of talent on that team, and Joe Montana just came out and blew me away in the last minute and half of the game. But, you know, things like that are why he's on everyones top 3 QB list.
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60 and 61. George Blanda led the Oilers were back to back AFL Championships. The next two best years were 1978 & 1979 where we lost in the playoffs to the eventual team of the decade and Hall of Fame laden Pittsburgh Steelers in the playoffs both times (we split with them in the regular season both years). Earl Campbell was the NFL rushing champion, Player of Year, All-Pro, Pro Bowl in 1978, 1979, 1980. We ended up losing in the playoffs to the eventual Super Bowl champ in 80 as well. That 3 year run with Earl was about as good as it can get without winning a Super Bowl.
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Like I said, I wasn't around back then, and I knew that we had won some AFL championships back in the days. But man, Earl was a bad dude, hands down the best power runningback to ever play the game.
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We had some great talent later in the Moon era but I really hated the run n shoot. I think we wasted our hall of fame linemen backing up pass blocking all game using a high school offense. We had one of the best defenses in the NFL, hall of fame linemen, Heisman trophy running backs, a probabable HOF QB in Moon...but a high school offense that good teams shut down in the playoffs. oye.
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I thought 78 & 79 were really exciting Houston football years, but then again, I wasn't really into the Oilers before that time.
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We had some great talent later in the Moon era but I really hated the run n shoot. I think we wasted our hall of fame linemen backing up pass blocking all game using a high school offense. We had one of the best defenses in the NFL, hall of fame linemen, Heisman trophy running backs, a probabable HOF QB in Moon...but a high school offense that good teams shut down in the playoffs. oye.
92 we scored 24 points at denver. 93 we scored 38 points at buffalo. and 94 we scored 20 at home. there were some years shortly before these that we did not score as well but we also were not quite ready to win. of course we never won. also that team that only scored 20 against the cheifs were killed by injuries especially on the oline. if i remember correctly the oline had 3 starters out by the end of the game. and had a rookie named brad hopkins at left tackle getting used by derrick thomas.
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92 we scored 24 points at denver. 93 we scored 38 points at buffalo. and 94 we scored 20 at home. there were some years shortly before these that we did not score as well but we also were not quite ready to win. of course we never won. also that team that only scored 20 against the cheifs were killed by injuries especially on the oline. if i remember correctly the oline had 3 starters out by the end of the game. and had a rookie named brad hopkins at left tackle getting used by derrick thomas.
Yeah, so 94 was the year I was thinking of. Also I remember the holes the Oiler's offensive line used to open, the runningbacks would run 5 yards before anyone would even have a chance to touch them, they were litteraly big enough to drive a truck through. With those linemen, if a rb couldn't find the hole, he needed to be cut. Bubba McDowell used to crack heads in the secondary, and I believe Michael Barrow was a rookie that year also right??
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92 we scored 24 points at denver. 93 we scored 38 points at buffalo. and 94 we scored 20 at home. there were some years shortly before these that we did not score as well but we also were not quite ready to win. of course we never won. also that team that only scored 20 against the cheifs were killed by injuries especially on the oline. if i remember correctly the oline had 3 starters out by the end of the game. and had a rookie named brad hopkins at left tackle getting used by derrick thomas.
Yeah, but we couldn't stay on the field and never wore down a defense. High flying offensive teams that can't grind the clock down rarely win in the NFL.
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Yeah, but we couldn't stay on the field and never wore down a defense. High flying offensive teams that can't grind the clock down rarely win in the NFL.
We had 1000+ yard rushers each of those years, I agree that the run and shoot was, is, and will always be JUNK. But the Oilers were the Colts of that erra(with about 800 times the defence), Warren Moon, much like Payton Manning, was a great QB, but when it came down to it, in the big game, he would choke up interceptions and bad throws all day long. I will NEVER forget in that Buffalo game watching Moon throw passes strait at linebackers, and watching the balls bounce right off of their chests.
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if you dissagree then too bad warren moon and lorenzo white dominated in 19991 warren moon had his best season ever wich was a great one and we got to the playoffs
That was 1993 dude. I think we still had Allen Pinkett in 1991, I didn't like him, no matter what anyone ever says, he will always be sub-parr in my eyes.
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Now this begs the question how did the best Oiler year compare with the best Titan year?

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By the time that came around, I really didn't care anymore.
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I've gotta go with 94. 12-4 going into that game vs. KC. I still remember Keith F'ing Cash throwing the football at the Buddy Ryan sign. We let an old decrepped Joe Montana beat us at home. I was there, I was a young teen, and I was pissed.
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The Oilers were 3-13 in '94 under the Commander, Bucky, and Billy Joe.

'93 had the most talented group of players and was one of the most bizarre years for any team in NFL history. Buddy and Kevin, Babygate, Alm, 11 in a row, the xmas day win in SF, the choke against KC.

'79 was the best team.

I'm not old enough to judge '60 and '61 but they obviously accomplished more.

The one-yard-short titans never had to play the Steelers in their prime like we did three times a year in '78 and '79.

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the team that went 12 and 4 was the 93 team but the loss to kc was actually played in jan of 94.
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I am starting to believe that in 05 the Jaguars will be fielding the best team ever in Jacksonville, and it had me wondering what year did Houston have the best team ever?

ha, i'm glad we have higher expectations in houston than thrid place as best team ever.

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That was 1993 dude. I think we still had Allen Pinkett in 1991, I didn't like him, no matter what anyone ever says, he will always be sub-parr in my eyes.
Yes Allen Pinkett was a G! j/k!
I rememeber when he was first getting big my boy Josh, Warren's son, would always wear his jersey to school. We still gave him crap about it in high school cuz he still had up on his wall. But I'm not gonna say much, Warren always took us everywhere and always paid for everything. I don't care what people say, Warren Moon is a stand up guy. just made a few bad choices... :brickwall
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We had 1000+ yard rushers each of those years, I agree that the run and shoot was, is, and will always be JUNK. But the Oilers were the Colts of that erra(with about 800 times the defence), Warren Moon, much like Payton Manning, was a great QB, but when it came down to it, in the big game, he would choke up interceptions and bad throws all day long. I will NEVER forget in that Buffalo game watching Moon throw passes strait at linebackers, and watching the balls bounce right off of their chests.
Passing with that big a lead is just dumb. It stops the clock and gives the other team time to come back. The Run and shoot generated lots of rushing yards but that was between the 20's. With no TE's and 4 tiny wide outs it was not a good playoff offense since they could not run when they really had to. If we ran a more conventional offense we would have never blown those leads because we could have run the clock out on them. The R&S just was not capable of it.
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Now this begs the question how did the best Oiler year compare with the best Titan year?
I don't think anyone here cares much about Nashville's franchise. Only Houston's.
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